different engine in me saff?
03-10-2004, 07:30 PM
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different engine in me saff?
right,seeing all these saffs recently has got me wanting it working again! 
BUT dont want a cossie engine (not telling what,surprise if i do it!) but,it needs a good stripping and im pretty sure i wont be using a cossie loom,and dont want or need the car loom(stripped,no need for heaters,window switches etc....) but do i need to hook it up in a fashion to keep the lights and brakes?(ABS is electric innit?) what do i NEED?and how could it be done with no link to the engine loom?hmmm..... any ideas?hint,it might have carbs and a turbo and give approx 300bhp,but sounds soooooo much better than cossie lump. seeing as carbs,no loom or ecu!comes with its own. 
BUT dont want a cossie engine (not telling what,surprise if i do it!) but,it needs a good stripping and im pretty sure i wont be using a cossie loom,and dont want or need the car loom(stripped,no need for heaters,window switches etc....) but do i need to hook it up in a fashion to keep the lights and brakes?(ABS is electric innit?) what do i NEED?and how could it be done with no link to the engine loom?hmmm..... any ideas?hint,it might have carbs and a turbo and give approx 300bhp,but sounds soooooo much better than cossie lump. seeing as carbs,no loom or ecu!comes with its own.
03-10-2004, 07:35 PM
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greg build it back to mental cossie spec ( mind last enigne wasnt that shy 
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serious matey ya want reall cossie power
oh i might knopw a guy with a 2.0 pinto limp on webbers though
)serious matey ya want reall cossie power
oh i might knopw a guy with a 2.0 pinto limp on webbers though
03-10-2004, 07:47 PM
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not a v8!nope! 4 cylinder!hmmm....
lets just say itll make peak power somehere over 10,000 rpm!
i just wanna know how to keep the rest of the car working if i change the motor in it? obviously cant link up the car loom to a engine without the cossie inj setup so will the abs and lights still work?
lets just say itll make peak power somehere over 10,000 rpm!
i just wanna know how to keep the rest of the car working if i change the motor in it? obviously cant link up the car loom to a engine without the cossie inj setup so will the abs and lights still work?
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03-10-2004, 07:58 PM
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heheheh!NOOOOOO!!!!! but i am eyeing up a honda blackbird engine! 300bhp @16psi apparently! oh yeah!!!! and i LOVE bike engines!sound awesome and not so much torque itll kill the diff either!OR i could go 550bhp hayabusa engine,but TOO expensive for me at mo!
how do you do away with abs?can i just leave it out?
how do you do away with abs?can i just leave it out?
03-10-2004, 08:02 PM
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Nice but bear in mind that the extra weight of the Saff will mean much more strain on the engine. Plus what are you gonna do about the gearbox?
03-10-2004, 08:09 PM
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what gearbox?i aint got one in the saff! gearbox mounted to the engine on a blackbird,put it in sideways,extend the propshaft from the diff.roberts your fathers brother. and also will be reducing the weight of saff,NO interior just 2 small seats and bike clocks! fibreglass bonnet and boot,lightweight engine( 
) etc etc....with 300bhp itll have circa 250 lb/ft so should be ok.i am just mulling this over at mo,so dont shoot me down just yet!and itll only be used occasionally!got a pug 205 (mi16) for everyday! woohoo!really wanna try the sequential thing too!hmmmm.... just need to figure out a reverse gear now!DAMMIT!
) etc etc....with 300bhp itll have circa 250 lb/ft so should be ok.i am just mulling this over at mo,so dont shoot me down just yet!and itll only be used occasionally!got a pug 205 (mi16) for everyday! woohoo!really wanna try the sequential thing too!hmmmm.... just need to figure out a reverse gear now!DAMMIT!
03-10-2004, 08:15 PM
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Not trying to shoot you down mate, just giving you food for thought 
Certainly sounds an interesting project
Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
Certainly sounds an interesting project Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
03-10-2004, 08:18 PM
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dont want it to be the quickest thing in the world,just a thought!love the noise,dont like bikes,love saffs,cant afford bloody cossie stuff again!itd be fun tho!i reckon itd go fairly quick like!
03-10-2004, 08:21 PM
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no one has my vision! ah well! ill go back to my corner! wonder how much the escort here www.situne.no weighs? thats AWESOME!! love it,the sounds everything and only 200bhp! see it CAN be done! look at the vids!
03-10-2004, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
no one has my vision! ah well! ill go back to my corner! wonder how much the escort here www.situne.no weighs? thats AWESOME!! love it,the sounds everything and only 200bhp! see it CAN be done! look at the vids!
03-10-2004, 08:34 PM
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cool,time to get an angle grinder out the!what dont i need?hmmm........ lightweight EVERYTHING! how much does a std saff weigh?without the engine and box? thats gotta save LOADS! then the interior,sideglass,bonnet and boot,heater matrix etc...... then add on a tiny bike engine!gotta be light ish!
I see a VW lupo in Germany with 2 bike engines in and 4wd!! awsome little car
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Originally Posted by Ian2wdsaffcos
Not trying to shoot you down mate, just giving you food for thought Certainly sounds an interesting project
Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
Certainly sounds an interesting project Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
This is 1 my mate built,MK Indy based on sierra,MK supply the flange to
fit shortened sierra propshaft to gearbox.
04-10-2004, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Ian2wdsaffcos
Not trying to shoot you down mate, just giving you food for thought Certainly sounds an interesting project
Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
Certainly sounds an interesting project Will it be as straightforward as it sounds with the gearbox though in order to change it from chain drive? I ask because all the kit type cars & the Smart Car that was converted all still use chain drive & if it were that easy I would have thought they would have changed to a prop. BTW, remember you're gonna have to buy the £600-odd (IIRC) quaife reverse gear too
This is 1 my mate built,MK Indy based on sierra,MK supply the flange to
fit shortened sierra propshaft to gearbox.
I know for definite the Radicals are chain driven & am fairly sure the Westfields are too so assumed all the others were
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