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31-07-2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
REPEATED FOR LYNNE AS IT SEEMS SHE MISSED IT AS IM SURE SHE IS INTERESTED IN MY ANSWERS OR SHE WOULDNT HAVE ASKED THE QUESTIONS IN THE FIRST PLACE 
(or is she still trying to find someone with a science gcse to explain the basic stuff like i suggested she did, as that cant be easy to do in liverpool
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(or is she still trying to find someone with a science gcse to explain the basic stuff like i suggested she did, as that cant be easy to do in liverpool
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Why are you insulting Scousers?
Originally Posted by Redkop
I don't live anywhere near Liverpool you fool.....
Lynne - your always right about everything mate.
Chip just agree its much easier. 
31-07-2007, 12:31 PM
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In the evo .vs. scooby argument - theres a very simple technical reason to remember...
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
31-07-2007, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Will 85
In the evo .vs. scooby argument - theres a very simple technical reason to remember...
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
And what difference does a seperate transfer box make ?
31-07-2007, 07:13 PM
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I think most of the evo owners think they have a better car because in japan they win most of the time attack events and in the us the they set fast et's on the dragstrip and in the time attack events.
31-07-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RS500
I think most of the evo owners think they have a better car because in japan they win most of the time attack events and in the us the they set fast et's on the dragstrip and in the time attack events.
Evo's can often go faster, because their owners more often seem to have more money....shows money doesnt buy taste
lol
31-07-2007, 09:23 PM
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[quote="Redkop"]
Really? OK whatever
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It's true!
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Scousers are one of the groups of people you need a good reason not to insult as opposed to a reason to insult
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It's true!
31-07-2007, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
So, to summarise after all your dummy spitting etc, you have NO argument against the fact that this years results prove categorically that its wrong for people to act like Evo's are so superior to Scooby's then in terms of the potential to build an awesome car from each?
Cool, at least we all agree then
Cool, at least we all agree then
31-07-2007, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
Originally Posted by marco polo
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
11.97 was the fastest vauxhall
I dont have the handling times for the nova yet
I dont have the handling times for the nova yet
yes with a nissan engine in it
yo steve
i must be going mad so, someone told me that there was a red corsa with a pulsar engine in it
31-07-2007, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Will 85
In the evo .vs. scooby argument - theres a very simple technical reason to remember...
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
The early scoobys are very light - getting them down to around 1000kg is very easy.
There's no seperate transfer box on them either - it's internal within the gearbox.
It still has the same number of diffs and still requires a transfer casing and drop gears, it's just well engineered and has the engine and gearbox in the proper orientation fore aft, rather than transverse, so the transfer assembly and centre diff is tagged onto the back of the box. Thats why it was posible to change the centre diff and dropgears on the Zen car without the need to remove the gearbox from the car, proper engineering being used in a practical motorsport environment.
The main benefit of a scoob IMHO is the fact the weight is so low in the front and it uses a longetudenal engine/gearbox arangement, with a lightweight flat four engine keeping the centre of gravity low, whilst also having a small polar moment of inertia. Now the Scoob tuners have worked out how to make the engines produce decent power, everyone else is going to have to work harder to beat them, which is nice.
01-08-2007, 12:13 AM
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Not being a major fan of either Evo' or Scooby's myself,but if I was in the market to buy a quick Jap turbocharged 4X4 car,it would be a Scooby,because at the end of the day a Scooby did win,so showing the cars true tuning potential.People can talk all they like,but at the end of the day facts show which is quicker.
PS on a side note to facts,thats one of the reasons I enjoy reading results of TOTB/Track Attack/Top Speed runs etc,facts are recorded in stone,unlike pub talk/internet arguments which are based on a persons favourite car bias and exaggerated claims!!
Regards,Micky
PS on a side note to facts,thats one of the reasons I enjoy reading results of TOTB/Track Attack/Top Speed runs etc,facts are recorded in stone,unlike pub talk/internet arguments which are based on a persons favourite car bias and exaggerated claims!!
Regards,Micky
01-08-2007, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
The main benefit of a scoob IMHO is the fact the weight is so low in the front and it uses a longetudenal engine/gearbox arangement, with a lightweight flat four engine keeping the centre of gravity low, whilst also having a small polar moment of inertia. Now the Scoob tuners have worked out how to make the engines produce decent power, everyone else is going to have to work harder to beat them, which is nice.
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