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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Im currently rebuilding my engine and wondered which cams and injectors to use .
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200 4x4 block , Low comp balanced bottom end ,4x4 inlet manifold + fuel rail ,2 wd ex manifold , escort cosworth head standard , GRP A coil ,oil breather , fuel pump , cam belt .TT38 0.63 ex housing T4 comp wheel 360 deg bearing .
L8 ecu , closed loop ,thats it so far , im looking for 470 bhp .
any advice would be great especially if ive missed something .
Thanks Travis.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Give Stu @ MSD a phone call in the morning ...

http://www.remapping.co.uk


He is an expert with the L8 and has some unique options

He may have an off the shelf solution.

Probably.....

You will need bigger injectors than greys for that BHP and he will
probally recommend siemens types (4 off).

The standard head MAY be an issue for that power level.

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 06:21 AM
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The standard head MAY be an issue for that power level.

I think you will need some head porting and cams to get the power you are after

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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i thought the head might need porting , what cams do you recomend .i was thinking DB14 inlet DB12 exhaust or is this a bit wild or would 12s on inlet and exhaust be better .
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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bd14 inlet bd10 exshut seems to be a good cam choice for all round power the std ex cam gives less torque i find
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:38 PM
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Thanks for the advice so far people , confusing all the cam choices though . i think im better off talking to stu @ msd as he will be tunning it .
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 04:40 PM
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Will a T38 make 470?? how about some 1000cc injectors??
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Think some T38's will do upto 480 on a bench dyno so should do near 450 in car.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Will a T38 make 470?? how about some 1000cc injectors??
Im sure the TT T38 does

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Good luck Trav!
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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the TT38 turbo came off a 511 bhp saph , it has had some work done to internals and a turbo technics T4 comp wheel .

hello there dan hows your motor going ?
why you selling the 1000cc inj , was told to grt 850 cc inj
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Originally Posted by cosy trav
the TT38 turbo came off a 511 bhp saph , it has had some work done to internals and a turbo technics T4 comp wheel .

hello there dan hows your motor going ?
why you selling the 1000cc inj , was told to grt 850 cc inj
Sorry trav, i meant you get some 1000cc injectors

I'm having a GT30 on mine. L8 1000cc injec..

I have a T38 on now but i find it abit laggy..
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Lmao thought i found some for sale then .
staffi what cams you got on yours if you dont mind me asking .
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The TT T38 is surge city and would most likely need live mapping with air injectors to be safe
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Originally Posted by cosy trav
Lmao thought i found some for sale then .
staffi what cams you got on yours if you dont mind me asking .
Trav, they're some of NMS jobs, ..the head work alone was over 2grand..
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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getting it live mapped by stu@msd , heard hes the dogs danglies . will be getting air injectors fitted when i get it mapped .
2 k on head work blimmey . then again when you think about it , cams, double valve springs or solid lifters , pulleys , valves , guides , port and polish soon mounts up .
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I find it hard to believe that a t38 can run 480 bhp never mind 511
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
I find it hard to believe that a t38 can run 480 bhp never mind 511

My thoughts exactly Euan...
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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this is the turbo ive got . i cant see it making 508 bhp but 470 bhp might be got .


https://passionford.com/forum/viewto...bb029a6285b028

i am going to phone turbo technics to find out about it .
thanks everyone for your input so far it is much appreciated .
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Universal Turbos version of the T38 will make 440 - 450 absolute max....on a fully worked engine....Head, Cams, Injectors, and all the right ancillaries.

Turbo Technics T38 ..... the most we've seen is on YUM's Engine which again, with all the right bits made 460 + bhp.....I think that's the best we've seen on here from those two turbo's (In the real world), and both engines had absolutely everything....fully worked head, etc.

To get 470bhp plus you need to go to a GT30/T4 or better. And you'll still need all the right bits on the engine.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cosy trav
getting it live mapped by stu@msd , heard hes the dogs danglies . will be getting air injectors fitted when i get it mapped .
2 k on head work blimmey . then again when you think about it , cams, double valve springs or solid lifters , pulleys , valves , guides , port and polish soon mounts up .
Exactly, it's a fantastic spec on my saff, credit to Karl & Jim for there work involved, oh and Mike R and Bud-Weis for the suspension..

Will be a very complete car when the GT30 etc are added..
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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Another hard day at the office.....

Staffi : Don't forget LLoyds Bank....

9:30 am here (Palma de Mallorca...Spain).
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Another hard day at the office.....
08.31 Coventry, pissing down..

I've got the bank manager popping round for lunch Jim
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Get over to Karl's I'm sure he'll have the Coffee on.
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Get over to Karl's I'm sure he'll have the Coffee on.
1 lump or 2??
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Bank Manager to Lunch : Excellent Idea......
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
Bank Manager to Lunch : Excellent Idea......

I'll need around 3k ish i reckon...

Got the Ecu-- already, injec, turbo, 5 bar map sensor, wastegate i'll leave to Karl and then the mapping...2bar+ here i come..
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A good lunch and a spin in the cossie should cover 3k.

Watch out in the wet though.
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
A good lunch should cover 3k.

Hope so, if not i'll PM you for a loan Jim....



Right, breakfast for me...
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Get a new oil pump
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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already got new oil pump and water pump

ive got 5 months till i get my licencee back so i have plenty of time .

can you get a gt 30 with internal wastegate or is it external ?

i will probably get on if this turbo is to laggy as ive heard there a good unit .
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