Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

i must agree about the white R1 and i dont even like yams

_SpeedX_

iTrader: (1)

that white r1 is photoshopped. check the back wheel

mark_h

my mate has just ordered a turbo kit for his gixxer thou, its allready close to 200bhp so feck knows what its going to be when its all fitted

3i_gaz

good bike, finish on them isnt all that tbh, and the front end is mega twitch i found!! invest in a GOOD dampener and get the suspension set up right and you will be ok

Red16

depends where youre riding it to be honest, if wringing its neck on the A1 is your thing then yeah the R6 will get dull very quickly, but if youre into piecing a series of lovely twisty bends together and really working the box up and down you would be hard pushed to get bored of the 600 bike, unless you were very talented

i had a gsxr 600 a few years ago and loved it, on the move... very similar performance to my current Evo, but in a different league for entertainment/grin factor, adrenalin rush after rush after rush... Alston-Hartside... Melmerby-Hartside

and for the record from a 50-150mph roll on theres nothing in it between a 387bhp Pulsar GTiR (forged engine, GT30) and an 2004 Kawasaki ZX636 (one of the quicker 600 bikes), proven numerous times as my friends own both

Deano

32K is easily spent

8-9K already gone on buying the bike , I could easily spend 10K on Suspension , a further 5K on brakes etc

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

deano is it really needed on a bike though?

thats nuts!

Deano

Why wouldnt it be ?

My rear brake for my Blade cost over Ł1K

Why would you not want the best handling and braking bike you can afford ?

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

sorry but i just cant comprehend spending that on a bike! todays sportsbikes are pretty damn good as standard and will be far better than most people need

Deano

Isnt that a bit like people modifying say ....... an EVO 9 with coilovers and APs

The car is already better than most people need

And may i suggest trying a bike fitted with PROPER brakes not your OEM stuff

S1rst

I can understand why people would want to spend that kind of money on track bikes where you can get the full benefit out of the upgraded parts, but i cant see any REAL benefit for a road bike, well for me personally anyway.

Im sure theres people that can ride a standard bike to its limits on track so need to upgrade to ride beyond that. But can anyone REALLY ride a 750 or a thou to its limits on the road?

Having said that, some people spend money on making their cars handle, brake and perform better but they dont necessarily drive them any harder.

Deano

I doubt anyone can including racers , simply because you cant go 100% , 100% of the time on the road

And how is it acceptable to modify a car which for a lot of people , never sees a track , yet for a bike its incomprehensible

Rod-Tarry

It is nuts & cant be justified unless you have everything else in place in your life. My kids were grown up & I had a good lifestyle before I bought my first Cossie at the age of 50.

mattbibs

had to sit in the pub last night and listen to the old chestnut of how my mates 400hp cossie kept with a thou to 170! AGAIN!

Rod-Tarry

My 0-150 12.6, 0-180 is 17.8 & 0-190 20.4 thats 150-180 in 5.2 compared to 9.3 for that bike thats a lot of distance gained at 80+m/sec. Past 160 mine would simply drive away hence the video at Brunters. On the road I would not be so lucky below 150 the 1000cc bike is going to win hands down no doubts in my mind.

Paul J

^wow, seen your figures before Rod but now comparing that it really puts it into context.

Id imagine the bike would have pulled a reasonable lead upto 150, so im guessing, you wouldnt pass until nearer 180mph?

jacko

i had a few r1s and in my opinion they have too short a wheel base to be a good handeling sports bike they are too twitchy so why i bought a turboed one i allso had a k4 gsxr1000 and would never have anything other than another gsxr1000 now

sunny

iTrader: (1)

So you think selling my '99 R1 as it is (non turbo kit) and buying a K5 GSXR1000 (which I could get at a good price I've been told) then turbo'ing that is the way to go?

Paul J

^ It may not be for you but id be pretty confident if you had a ten minute test ride on the K5/6 you'd go that way.

jacko

dont turbo a bike ever if you want to live is what id say i rode that bike 3 times before i got wise

S1rst

Maybe nitrous would be a better option than a turbo on a bike. More gradual power delivery so maybe more controlable?

jacko

1000cc bikes are mare than capable/ with a dynojet kit a filter and an exhaust my gixer was more than fast enough

S1rst

I agree mate. I was just thinking about the few that feel they need more power for whatever reason.

jacko

it was 217 bhp at the wheel and the r1turbo was over 330 and i could get more speed out of the gixer cos the r1 would float its wheel at 160 in3rd

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...come on guys forget the turbo's....the latest R1 at what 180bhp is ample on the public highway..no?

..i will stick to 60bhp NSR and a 130bhp Duke..fuck the R1 i am too old!

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

3rd gear at 160mph? surely not?

jacko

thats what the speedo was reeding mate i know it had different geering but it still had standard length swing arm bearing in mind that a zx1or will do 115 in first it dosnt sound too unbelevable

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

just sounds mental mate!

jacko

it was thats why i dont own it any more big cc have a road leagle hyabusa with nearly 800bhp at the wheel

Lambchop

iTrader: (1)

wtf

point?

jacko

they say its capable of well over 300 mph they toned it down to 500 bhpso some one from fast bikes could ride it and he shit his self and refused to ride it back down the run way

jameswrx

Forget an old R1, they are quick but the newer 1k's are noticeably quicker.

Get yourself an 04 zx10r, nice learner bike!

Seriously though if you love the early R1, get one.. it's your choice. I love the early R1's myself and have had a few over the years. They aren't the greatest handling bikes though, seem a bit lardy compared to the newer stuff.

If you join the American R1 forum you'll see there's loads of people there that have R1's as their first bikes.. most of them are kids too!

In all seriousness though a newer 1k is easier to ride IMO. Take the zx10r for example, it pootles around sooo much easier than an early R1, slipper clutch works nice too. By easier to ride, I mean normal slow riding BTW. Also a new thousand will show you properly quick, the old R1 gets a bit slow over 140mph IMO..


My old zx10r (off the rev limiter, not just shift light)..

108mph in 1st
130 mph in 2nd
150mph in 3rd
etc

It would hit it's 180mph speed limiter in 5th gear before the physical rev limit. Granted that's indicated speed but it would tear an early R1 a new arsehole over 130mph.

Get a power commander and akra on there and cream ya fookin pants.

Only gsxr 1k I've had was a 2002 model, I've never liked gsxr's, they look fat and ropey too. The 2005 model is a different story and I'm currently looking for one..

I've got a 2005 zx6r at the moment, nice little bike. Plenty fast enough for the roads but you always want more don't you?

Deano

Do what

jacko

thats what it red on the clock when it had the life rung out of it whitch dosnt mean up to the red then up a gear

Deano

Your genuinely claiming a bike can do 115 in first , yet with another 5 gears can only do an extra 71 mph

I dont think so buddy

jacko

it was claimed that when the first zx10r came out that it would do 117 but it didnt so sorry mate but i do think so

jacko

this is why a turboed bike is no good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-ppG...elated&search=

jameswrx

As I stated my zx10r would do over 100 in 1st (indicated on clock, off the limiter) The journo's at the time confirmed this.

It's pretty widely known that the 10's would do over a ton in 1st on the clocks.

Mine would stack on roughly 20mph (indicated) every gear there after, hitiing it's 180mph speed limiter in 5th gear.

Deano

Not disputing they wouldnt , but they arent doing 117 in first are they and clocks on bikes are widely known for their over reading

Mr Brannen

Just been on my mates K5 GSXR 600, and I must say its put me off the whole 1000cc thing, even with me on the back it pulled well, to tell u the truth mind if thats how fast they were with one person on then I would be bored very quickly , but with twice the weight I can imagine the 600 being more than enough for me