BlueSmoke

I'm feeling like I've been kicked square in the balls right now.

The Seat guys have stripped the engine, found that something's blocked up with shit that was in the oil which has then stopped oil getting through to the head. The head's been starved of oil, the tappets have seized, a cam's snapped, he mentioned the woodruff key, and the turbo has ended up full of oil.

I feel like crying right now, I'm that stressed.....

The total cost of having a brand new engine fitted, plus the labour and the labour for investigating the cause of the current engine's death is £3500.

The warranty I bought with the car says that the max amount per claim is £1295, but they have told the garage that that's wrong and it's £300.

I've only had the car since the 29th of December and have covered around 3500 miles.

Where do I stand? It's currently in the garage with the engine out and stripped.

Should I think about rejecting it? What are my rights? How would I go about doing this if I did persue this route?

Cheers folks. Really appreciate any help.

ballin

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you assume we all know your life
where did you buy it, whats the warranty; who with?
service history, mileage?

BlueSmoke

Bought it at CarCraft (first mistake but had little choice with my credit score....), they MOT'd it December 19th, it had done 72345 miles. It's no on about 76170.

It's a former Black Horse Finance lease car. They gave me no history. If I hadn't been so far into the deal before I realised this I'd have probably walked away to be honest. Got caught up in the excitement at the time.

Warranty was a 4 year parts and labour warranty with NAC.

Chip

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Sadly mate those warranties arent worth a wank IME

Butch.

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what engine is it jay?

is it the 20v 1.8t?

RichardPON

Agreed.

Jay - you really do make a Rod for your own back!

Buy a car on finance at extortionate rates without service history, whilst still having not sold your previous car, then drive it around ignoring the engine management light.

Sorry mate - no sympathy.

Chip

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Harsh but true.

The problem is that the people who say "I couldnt afford a full service for it" are the same people who really cant afford not to have one.

Turbosystems

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Chip I am sure there are plenty of morals to his story that we all get sadly it appears he may not

Chip

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Easiest moral is
turbo car + small budget = bad idea

Porkie

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He did what?!?!?! Shocking!!! NO sympathy what so ever.

I am sure Martin could sort an Audi engine cheaper than that. Give him a bell. Doubt he will give you credit and I doubt blame him!

When I had no money I had a brown and Gold Mk1 Fiesta... admittidly it was a sandpiper II special edition though

Sticky.

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Kick him while he's down Lee

Turbosystems

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Porkie
my first car was a hillman hunter it was £50 i didn't get finance nor did i get a 4 year warranty, mind you it had only done 55k miles and I got four free tyres with it one on each corner they were crossplies perfic

foreigneRS

perhaps you should be going to see a solicitor then

on a plus note, i have a 1.1 mk2 fiesta that you can have for free if you collect from basingstoke. no t&t or mot though, but it's free and it's a ford. don't get much cheaper than that to run around in

BlueSmoke

TSM, not sure what you're trying to say.

For everyone that wants to stick the boot in, feel free, but understand that I already know I was daft, however when the engine light came on, firstly I didn't know what it was, and secondly when I found out I thought that it wouldn't be anything major because of all the times I've heard about people having their engine light come on and it's been nothing. It was still driving and behaving totally normal at the time.

I hold my hands up and admit yes I've fucked up. Not knowingly, but I've fucked up nonetheless.

What I have an issue with is the car developing a problem only 3 months after I've got it.

Plus, the mechanic said something about shit in the oil clogging it up. Surely they can't have sold me a freshly checked and serviced car if this is the case?

Butch - it's the 1.8 20v T mate.

For those that are trying to help, many thanks

Chip

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60 quid of car that mate if you take it to the scrappy.

Chip

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Its their fault the light came on, its your fault you ignored it and now have a big bill.

IF you had bothered to take it back when the light came on, you probably could have recovered the couple of hundred quid repair bill from them, but you didnt sadly mate

I dont think you are in ANY position legally to complain.

scottbrown

go see a soicitor mate...

problem is, as you say warrenty will only pay out up to £300, so I expect that is the most you will get towards it.

as for the shit in the oil, you cannot prove that this hasent happened in the 3k that you have done, they are just gonna say that you have put wrong oil or sommit in it.....

see a solicitor mate

Chip

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Worth phoning martin up by the way J, lee wasnt taking the piss when he said he could probably sort you out with supplying and fitting a secondhand engine.

Chip

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PS

If it was me I would buy a 300 quid ford escort to drive for now, and take your time on sorting the seat out when you have the cash to do so.

If you go straight out and get massively in debt again just to get it back on the road quick, you will be paying for it for ages!

Katie

Read your warranty paperwork which should say how much the claim limit is surely? 300-1295 is a bit of a difference? I don't know why somebody would sell you a warranty for 300...as that wouldn't be worth having if something major goes wrong?...worth checking anyway

If you drove the car when there was a fault that's their defence I'd say...they'll claim you filled the oil up with baked beans or something too..

See a solicitor/Citizens advice if you want some legal advice...this isn't exactly barristerscorner.com so you might not get any joy here

I've been in Carshaft once...saw their ''bargain of the week'' a 51 plate clio 1.2 for 7995, and ran the fuck away

Porkie

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No, I wasn't at all. Was trying to help. 07860 452145

BlueSmoke

Already going to buy a Mondeo or something for a few weeks to run about in when the MR2 goes at the weekend, Chip.

I have to say I really don't appreciate the way some of you are being with me. Firstly, Porkie, appreciate the thing about the engine, but the bit about credit is pretty insulting seeing as you do not know the situation. I have bad credit because there is INCORRECTLY an unpaid credit card balance of £50 on there with HBOS which it claims has been unpaid for about 8 months. I cleared this card and actually overpaid by £50, so getting my credit report to find this on it is a real insult.

Unfortunately I'm having issues getting it resolved.

Secondly, I was doing OK for money until I decided to move out. I felt that at 25 I shouldn't be at home bothering my 60yr old mother anymore. She should be enjoying her life now, not putting up with me. So I decided to leave. Seeing as I am due a payrise in May and have been looking to get a second job as well, I thought I could survive a couple of tight months. Obviously I didn't expect anything bad to happen with the car.

Thirdly, I took a gamble and lost. I decided that rather than set money aside from my wage for a full service, I would use some cash from the sale of the MR2. This was a conscious decision, but unfortunately the tosser on ebay that used the buy it now messed me about and left me in the shit.

I'm sorry I can't be as perfect as you lot. Because nobody else has ever made a mistake about anything.

Chip

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Jay, porkie wasnt being insulting I dont think, Martin simply doesnt give many people credit is all he means probably mate, ie that you have to be a special case to get trusted with it (like no doubt he is), and when martin does give credit I suspect it comes with a "your knee caps are at risk if you do not make a payment on a loan secured against them" smallprint you wouldnt like anyway

Westy

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what a shit situation..

Buy a car and the engine goes.. What a shit warrenty as well.. 300 quid? not worth it, is it?

Lastly, I hope you get it sorted.. but Why do people with an already bad credit rating insist on getting further finance for a poxy car.. !? Get a shitter, run around in it, whilst saving.. We all have to.. hence my piece of shit that Ive got.. but its reliable, all paid for, cheap as fuck to run around in..

Good luck

Porkie

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He said that earlier... you said you had bad credit. How was I to know that it wasn't your fault!

I have even been on Ebay trying to find you a head!!!!!

All my help has now CEASED... bollocks to you!

You tried to live above your means and it backfired...

YOU BOUGHT A CAR WITH NO FOOKING SERVICE HISTORY FROM A SHIT HOLE KNOWN FOR RIPPING PEOPLE OFF AND THEN WHEN A FUCKING ENGINE WARNING LIGHT COMES ON YOU IGNORE IT????

Do you watch programmes like watchdog and see these TOTAL coyboys rip people off week in week out??? They pray on the stupid and the desperate!!!

You need advice... but it ain't legal!!!!! You made the kind of mistakes someone who know NOTHING about cars would make or a silly teenager....

Not someone who lives on here and clearly knows all about cars and has ALOT of friends who know more!!!

I WAS trying to help. And my comment about the Fiesta I owned was not in jest.

Lambchop

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Lee
Why not just say what you really think?

BlueSmoke

Ok but there's no need for that Porkie. I was just saying that I found the credit thing insulting because I felt you had wrongly assumed I had debt all over the place.

I'm not too proud to apologise if I have got that wrong!

But I don't live on here and I have an extremely limited knowledge of things like this.

I don't think keeping things tight is living beyond my means, I would call that when you are actually consciously spending more than you have. I wasn't trying to do this. Even cancelled my participation in the Ring trip as a result of trying to be sensible.

All this hassle just because I thought "fuck it I'll buy a newer, modern car so I won't have any problems.".

It could only happen to me folks

I know Carcraft are not the best mate but to be honest, yes I was desperate. And no I don't watch stuff like that.

It's not easy at the lower end of the earnings chain, but I felt I was starting to get on track to be honest with you.

Stavros

Quote from your last thread...

You drove it for SIXTY MILES did you not, with the oil pressure warning light on and it sounding like a Diesel?

And you want legal advice to sue some fucker for more money?

You dont deserve a fucking PENNY mate, its YOUR fault the engines that fucked.

If youdve switched off the moment there was ANY sign of an issue the damage would be fairly minor and the bill a LOT smaller.

You seem a sound bloke, but I cant belive you want to take legal action, its YOUR bloody fault.

Chip

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Summary of my opinion:

LEGAL ADVICE = Not even worth trying mate

CAR ADVICE = Next time a "i need attention" light comes on, take notice of it

CLOSING THOUGHT = Hope it all works out ok for you one way or another mate

BlueSmoke

I just don't think there should have been a problem in the first place.

I'm not saying I wasn't wrong, but the truth of it is I wasn't sure what to do and it never occurred to me about having RAC cause I'd never used it before, so I kinda forgot I had it.

I'm more pissed off at the warranty co trying to do me when their forms say £1295 is the max claim amount than anything else.

I didn't have any idea of the damage I was doing else I wouldn't have gone any further.

I want to take it up with Carcraft because my issue is that the light shouldn't have come on in the first place IMO. If the car had been checked as they claim then surely this couldn't have happened?

Chip

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They do NOT check the cars as claimed, you only had to go to google and do 15 mins research on the company you were about to get thousands in debt with to see that.

I got greated with this when I just tried it:
Results 1 - 10 of about 9,530 for carcraft problems. (0.11 seconds)


Would be worth clicking a few before shelling out?


They dont do anything like the checks they claim they do, they CANT as they dont allow the budget that is required to do so!




They are a bunch of robbing bastards out to rip people off, a quick post on here FIRST would have told you that



No good going into things blind these days when its SO easy to get a bit of info to show you if you need to be wary or not.

Westy

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why were you desperate mate..??

how can anyone be desperate to get in debt..!?

BlueSmoke

Thanks for everybody's help anyway guys.

I'll let you know what I end up doing.

If truth be told though, I'm half tempted to buy an engine off ebay if it's gonna end up costing me, and fitting the damn thing myself. Might not know what I'm doing but I always learn by just doing stuff if I need something done.

Can't fuck it up any worse afterall.

Rhys

See mate with that statment i still dont think you learn!!! Phone Martin for an engine, least you know it will be 100% as of ebay it could be fucked etc.

Porkie said Martin has got them and will be competitive on price, and least you safe in the knowledge its going to be good. imo i would get the car trailored to him to fit aswell.

Chip

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I will take that wager, 100 quid?

SapphyMike

im in

Seriously, its like all the people who speed then complain when they get 3 points and a fine in the post.

If its got tits or tyres, its guaranteed problems

I am sorry to hear of your woes though.

andre_k

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some times people want things before they can afford it.

others, like me, cant save for shit, as when i have a small amount built up i blow it. i REALLY want a HDTV as im pissed off with having a poxy shit thing to play my 360 on, but i cannot save the money, all it would take is 2 months of scrimping

im not in huge debt, just a couple of grand together with the missus, from a holiday. one of my mates is over 20k in debt from 2 cars, a loan, and 3 credit cards. hes 21 and lives at home still, unsurprisingly.



good luck Dogsmoke, hope whatever you do works out

BlueSmoke

Chip, I'm not sure I would really try, for fear of doing exactly that

Just speaking out of frustration.

Rhys, problem is, I dunno what to do. How do I go about having the car taken there? I'll obviously have to pay for the labour so far at the dealer, but then would I tell them to just bin the engine they have taken out, or would they want to put the duff one back in before it leaves them?

How much is it gonna cost to send the car from Wakefield to wherever Martin is?

Just need to know what I'm doing really as I'm so stressed out I really can't think straight.

BlueSmoke

Westy, I just got sick of driving old shitboxes and felt that going to them was the only way tog et something newer. I knew it'd cost me a fair whack but decided it was that or nothing.

Westy

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well mate.. it really should have been the latter.. nothing All IMO of course, you gotta do what you gotta do.. Im no saint with money.. but have learnt over the years...

Save, save, save.. its much better than oweing all the time