Dave_cos

bit of a long shot...but anyway, i was pulled tonight after doing 85 in a 70 on the a19, the copper had it videod and everything, i was given 3 points and a £60 fine and a license producer. Is there anything i can do which may get me out of this situation? i kno its a longshot but worth asking, people may have wriggled out of this before? p.s when i was int he copper car i noticed a nice white saff drive past
cheers
Dave

rigwrecker

see if they have signed and dated it properly if ere is no date u get no points and fine

Dave_cos

ok cheers, will check now

Escy

Just take it on the chin

Dave_cos

Escy

yerr m8, thats what im thinking, only posting to see of anyone knows any loop-holes or anything as i cant afford to get anutha 3 points

thelynx

Yeh like he said may check the paper work side of it... But it is a long shot and most prob will have to take the points... Bummer

KregRS

Have a look on pepipoo

JamesH

iTrader: (21)

Did you ask for a calibration certificate?

Dave_cos

no i didnt? if they couldt produce one was their a higher chance of getting off with it?

Dave

*Bri.4.b.Cos*

Which part of the A19 did you get stung on?, as above make check to see if its dated and signed correctly, then have a look on peppipoo

Bri.

nrg19uk

i always thought it was 10% +2 for tolerance which takes it too 79 which your well within, too allow for speedo errors etc

*Bri.4.b.Cos*

How in hell is 85mph within 79mph

Bri.

fuzzy

ive heard this on fixed site gatso's not for the traffic police,they can get you for anything over the limit if they feel like it.but he was doing 85 which is well above this.youve done the crime now pay the fine (and take the points)

Dave_cos

I was stung around teeside park...i never thought about speedo errors, probably not worth trying tbh

nrg19uk

doh half asleep when i read that hahahah

Dave_cos

just checked thoroughly through it again and noticed the copper has dated it wrong. hes put the 18th instead of the 17th...anything i can do?

KSA-Cossie

iTrader: (4)

Heard about them being thrown out of court for that dave.

Big G

Is there anyway of you proving your whereabouts at the time stated o the slip on the 18th, CCTV/ Work clockcard/ Recipt of somekind etc.

Dave_cos

thanks for replies, Big G

i was caught at 11.55 on saturday night and its dated sunday...so on sunday i was asleep at that time lol, unfortunately no way of proving that?..is it possible for police to simply change the date to suit them?

Dave_cos

the thing is, i was pulled and was blatently speeding so cant he just take that court and say "well it was saturday night then" haha...obviously a bit more professionally lol

Chip

iTrader: (3)

No, provide evidence of where you were at the time of the alleged offence (even if thats just a statement from you), and state clearly that your car was parked on the driveway, then see what they do, I suspect they will drop it.

Go to pepipoo though, they know far more than people on here.

collierm

Don't speed then

Copper must have been in a bad mood. As previously said, its down to his discretion. If its dark, crappy weather and your doing 85 inside the braking distance to the car in front, don't think you've a leg to stand on.

If its 85 on a clear night with no other traffic about, then thats unlucky.

I got stopped coming back from Penshaw on the A19 where the copper told me I AVERAGED 92mph. He just smiled, told me not to be so daft and sent me on my way. That was a clear night with no other traffic. But then I got points for doing 34 up Ormesby Bank a few years ago. Just depends on the mood and the copper.

If you think you can beat the ticket, contest it, if you don't think you'll win, take the fine and points.

Cheers

Matt

Dave_cos

it was windy, however my the roads were empty and my driving wasnt dangerous, it'l be only cos im young and i drive an orite car. Whilst i was gettin done they were checking my car for any possible fault which would mean anutha 3 points and my license taken off me.
Cheers
Dave

collierm

Dave

What do you drive?

Dave_cos

collierm

civic jordan, but im only 17, police tend to victimise ppl like me

Dave_cos

does anyone know wheter it is possible for the police to simply amend the paperwork?

rigwrecker

if its dated wrong and the date on there camera footage is different then they cant do ya

Dave_cos

rigwrecker

thats the answer i wanted lol, can you explain a little more as to how this works? tbh ive no idea how the law works. can you explain the law/act that theyve broke

iansoutham

They do not need to amend it.

A copper tried to take me to court on my motorbike and said I was doing some silly speed @ 10.30 AM instead of PM.

I took it to court, magistrate said it was a clerical error and tough. Fortunately though, I had the repair paperwork from the rebuild on my bike to prove that it was:

a/ not possible due to mechanical problems (headgasket had gone and had repair paperwork to prove it)

b/ the magistrate knew the bit of road I had been "speeding" on and agreed that it would not have been possible to do what the copper said I had been doing as I would have been dead. 64 mph turning right on a "dot-in-the-road" roundabout when you could only turn left/right with a pub opposite is not possible, and the roundabout it the size of a car on a Honda CG125 commuter bike ain't possible. Period.

If the magistrate hadn't been sensible though, I'd would have had a ban.

Anyway, I digress, you CAN get done, the day will not make a difference as the cop car will have you on camera, your face, your registration and a permanent date / time stamp on the footage.

3 points, your way!!!

Dave_cos

iansoutham

but the time and effort to correct their mistake, will not be worth it, also simply because of the fact their is no evidence for sunday night

BigMouthBillyBass

Still in probationary period then? I've just finished mine on feb 7th of this year, and managed to get all the way to december just gone without getting any points, then got 3 in blackburn doing 40 in a 30 If i'd have got another speed camera ticket through between december and feb i'd have had to re-sit

Having said that, for my first year of driving it was impossible for me to get a speeding fine as i was driving a 1.9 SDi VW Caddy van - Really struggle to break the speed limit in that thing

iansoutham

I do not quite follow that. The magistrate will just check the video footage presented when a "not-guilty" plea is entered, et voila, mistake rectified.

Unfortunately, a magistrate isn't stupid They realise that these things happen.

Word of advice for anyone contesting something like this, avoid a "Newton" hearing (check spelling/pronounciation) as from what I can gather from my solicitor, the copper can basically say what he wants and you can't do jack about it. My hearing went to that, and I was lucky to have a sensible magistrate.

Dave_cos

thats why i would be better without the points lol

Dave_cos

iansoutham

what im trying to say is, the evidence is dated 17th march however the ticket is dated the 18th...will the magistrate turn a blind eye to the separate dates?

Dicko&Vacant

iTrader: (3)

its bullshit that quote, i got caught and fined and points for 33 in a 30 which disproves that theory straight away

Dicko&Vacant

iTrader: (3)

were u at the nemm cruise saturday night? and there was a white saff rep there, did it have white wheels?

Dave_cos

i went to teeside park to go to the cinema, i presume that was the nemm cruise, i cant remeba what the wheels were, looked orite from inside the copper car

Dicko&Vacant

iTrader: (3)

the only white one there was a replica mate

jcrsturbo

my m8 payd £70 and did a 3 day driving corse whitch got gim off the points