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Old 10-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Biege injectors problem

Bought a set of beiges for doing a 195 conversion on my efi escort turbo from ebay. when they arrived in bosch 701 boxes took them out they were beige webber iw058s

Are they going to work or will i try and get my money back ?
Old 10-03-2007, 12:19 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...2204&rd=1&rd=1

anyone know the clown that sold him them? the ad clearly claims they are 701's but when they arrived they were weber IWO 058's which are no use at all,have to love his response to being told he's at it

yer thay r what i said thay are thay did come of a fista turbo thay came from bertons m8 so i no thay r
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:27 PM
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Pics clearly showing they are NOT bosch 701s




Old 10-03-2007, 02:53 PM
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IW058 flow rated at 384cc/min @3bar 14,5ohm (high impedance)
So they will work with OFAB/OFAC management as they are high impedance, but flowrate is a lot higher than 701..
Old 10-03-2007, 05:57 PM
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arnt beiges 16 ohms tho? wont the 1.5 ohm difference cause problems?


best bit is the cheeky sod sent them in bosch 701 boxes
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FAR bigger than a Bosch 701. get your money back of him.
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he's trying to but the twat is claiming they are definatly 701's


am i right in saying that the 1.5 ohms difference would cause major problems? im not really electrically minded
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I got a nice set of real 701s on ebay for sale
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i noticed those,just hope steve hasnt coz we both need a set
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He said he was going to have a chat with bertons (burtons ?) and he wants pics of them .
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im due holidays,fancy a run to kent?
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Originally Posted by rauri
am i right in saying that the 1.5 ohms difference would cause major problems? im not really electrically minded
No, the impedance is fine, but you will need to get a chip mapped for those and your spec.

The CORRECT ones that you wanted to buy are Bosch 0280 150 701 as seen in my ebay shop. As teh name suggests, they are made by bosch and teh last three digits of teh part number are 701 so how can he dispute that they are wrong?.

The guy is clueless, report him to ebay ASAP.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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am i right in saying that the 1.5 ohms difference would cause major problems? im not really electrically minded
No, the impedance is fine, but you will need to get a chip mapped for those and your spec.

The CORRECT ones that you wanted to buy are Bosch 0280 150 701 as seen in my ebay shop. As the name suggests, they are made by bosch and the last three digits of the part number are 701 so how can he dispute that they are wrong?.

The guy is clueless, report him to ebay ASAP.
my guess is hes not clueless but purchased the wrong ones himself from the wonder that is ebay,bought new ones from burton and then tried to make a quick buck from my m8 by selling the wrong ones in the correct boxes (which look almost new)


seems there are as many con's as there are decent sellers on ebay nowadays
Old 11-03-2007, 12:07 AM
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stop using ebay!

bought some bieges off phil years ago and thought they were really cheap. brand new/in boxes/quick delivery! why risk ebay anymore - its not worth the hassle as there isnt the bargains there once was!
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Originally Posted by mattbibs
stop using ebay!
Nowt wrong with ebay, as the link in my siggy proves.
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...yes nowt wrong with ebay i am getting some great secondhand bargains
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traders like yourselves excluded of course!
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The impedence won't make a difference - they will open slightly quicker and pull a touch more current. But, they will run a lower duty cycle than the 701's do that would compensate anyway.

Stu - preusming you can trust the flow rate - u should be able to alter the software for them as an off the shelf chip?
Old 11-03-2007, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick
The impedence won't make a difference - they will open slightly quicker and pull a touch more current. But, they will run a lower duty cycle than the 701's do that would compensate anyway.

Stu - preusming you can trust the flow rate - u should be able to alter the software for them as an off the shelf chip?
No mate, not unless you know teh injector high and low slopes and can convert them to suit the EEC softwares reference tables.

Anyway... Why would you bother paying someone to do that when they could just buy teh right fooking parts in the first place though?

DOH. Stu posting on nicoles PC. Sorry.
Old 12-03-2007, 05:11 PM
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Finaly got a reply from him after asking for my money back and i would return his webers .

This was his reply ....

"i sold them as they were sold to me if they were not 701 then i did not no so i have not broke any rules i have 100% feedback thay where sold as seen you will have to sell on how do i no you didnt swop them over"


Does this mean im stuck with them ?
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They weren't sold as seen though, they were sold as Bosch 701's.
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Originally Posted by stevemex
Finaly got a reply from him after asking for my money back and i would return his webers .

This was his reply ....

"i sold them as they were sold to me if they were not 701 then i did not no so i have not broke any rules i have 100% feedback thay where sold as seen you will have to sell on how do i no you didnt swop them over"


Does this mean im stuck with them ?
Id be heading to his house personally.

Thats like saying i thought that note i gave you was a Ł20. How was i to know it was only a Ł10? You can sod off if you think im giving you anymore...
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Just found out from a mate where he got the from

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=160079148444
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Originally Posted by Nicole
Originally Posted by Rick
The impedence won't make a difference - they will open slightly quicker and pull a touch more current. But, they will run a lower duty cycle than the 701's do that would compensate anyway.

Stu - preusming you can trust the flow rate - u should be able to alter the software for them as an off the shelf chip?
No mate, not unless you know the injector high and low slopes and can convert them to suit the EEC softwares reference tables.

Anyway... Why would you bother paying someone to do that when they could just buy the right fooking parts in the first place though?

DOH. Stu posting o n nicoles PC. Sorry.

Reading that I thought to myself 'She knows more than most of us men put together'.
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Probably time to file a dispute with eBAY, and give them the full details including that other link. Given that other link, it would seem highly likely he bought them, found they were wrong and has just tried to pass them on....

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/tp/inr-snad-process.html
Old 12-03-2007, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Billabong
Given that other link, it would seem highly likely he bought them, found they were wrong and has just tried to pass them on....
Originally Posted by some prick
thay where sold as seen you will have to sell on how do i no you didnt swop them over"
and he seems to think thats ok?!
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I know 2 years on ebay never had a single problem and now this . i will be more carefull from now on .

Out of interest , what are these weber iw058s worth ?
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Originally Posted by stevemex
I know 2 years on ebay never had a single problem and now this . i will be more carefull from now on .

Out of interest , what are these weber iw058s worth ?
nivermind that,file a dispute against the scamming bastard
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Tell the guy to get fooked!

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