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Mar 11, 2007 | 08:55 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUCATI-748r-SE...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ducati-Brembo-...QQcmdZViewItem

..better?

Mar 11, 2007 | 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS

RWD_cossie_wil

You need a diferent shaped hole in the disc

Gareth will tell you its technical name but we call it "oval"

i rather the term slotted or elongated

Mar 11, 2007 | 08:56 PM

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whys that then NUts?

to allow un and down play as well as axial?

Mar 11, 2007 | 09:02 PM

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DUCATI-748r-SEMI-FLOATING-DISCS_W0QQitemZ290090007169QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1044 8QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ducati-Brembo-...QQcmdZViewItem

..better?

If that reply was aimed at me then I'm less than impressed! Don't quote eBay ads... Let's have it in your own words... I have given my account of why the AP disc imho IS fully floating (again I will mention radial + axial) now let’s have yours...... waiting!

Mar 11, 2007 | 09:04 PM

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Martin-Hadland

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whys that then NUts?

to allow un and down play as well as axial?

your disc probably wont have the enough metal in the area's needing machining to make them floating..

Mar 11, 2007 | 09:10 PM

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and if they are under 350mm its not necessary

Mar 11, 2007 | 09:19 PM

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RWD_cossie_wil

You need a diferent shaped hole in the disc

Gareth will tell you its technical name but we call it "oval"

Or a slot in the Bell like the Alcon method , insted of the bobbin slotting into the disc it bolts flush to the face and the bell moves .
The term fully floating is normally used to describe the twin bearing type of live axle , salisbury , english etc.. Its just been bastardised by the people that think "fully " means their floating discs are better than others and worth more .

Mar 11, 2007 | 10:56 PM

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...martin i have had a 916bp with semis...they are not riveted and the disc hardly moves....my sp the discs moves alot...hence fully floating

..i think tony has cleared it up.

HTH

Mar 12, 2007 | 07:59 AM

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...martin i have had a 916bp with semis...they are not riveted and the disc hardly moves....my sp the discs moves alot...hence fully floating

..i think tony has cleared it up.

HTH

I don't think Tony has cleared it up at all! He merely mentioned that some manufacturers use different methods of creating float.

You have still not explained the differences between the disc mountings on your bike other than one has more play than the other

Perhaps one is worn more than the other....

Anyway it's a bttt for the folks who havn't seen what a plonker you are making of yourself over this

Mar 12, 2007 | 09:37 AM

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Anybody got a front & rear picture of a 355 floating disk fitted to the bell (with bolts & bobbins assembled).

Cheers

Not 355 but here is a fitting guide for floaters

Lay disc face up

Install the float bushes (or bobbins as you call em )

Turn over and fit the screws (and if supplied domed washers - dome up)

Add loctite now (not prior to screwing in)

Torque to 11 - 14Nm

HTH

Nice photo's but no help whatsoever to Mr Franco as the pics show the Brembo system!

Oh this is so yesterday, Martin i wouldnt waste your time!

Cheers for that Nuts!

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Mar 12, 2007 | 11:19 AM

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Martin if you havent worked out what it all means then i feel a little embarrassed to have to tell you...semi floating dont move as much as fully floating

note how the fully has more bobbins or whatever you what to call em,allowing more movement?....your AP's may do the same kinda movement radial and axial but are not classed as fully floating touch a fully floater and you will see what i mean...lets just stick to AP's are floating to end it not semi not fully just floating.

...gotta go look for a fresh fish now