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08-03-2007, 01:01 PM
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Who gives a flying rats fucking ass! i wanna know about the CAR fitments!! 
And its been sorted! The reason i asked for pics was because i have seen a pic where the bobbins were fitted differently (what i thought was incorrectly to what i did!).
So donned my sherlock holmes cap & found out you can fit the bobbins either way! (as long as they match!).....
Rich i'm fitting mine up tonight so i'll take some piccys for you!
And its been sorted! The reason i asked for pics was because i have seen a pic where the bobbins were fitted differently (what i thought was incorrectly to what i did!).
So donned my sherlock holmes cap & found out you can fit the bobbins either way! (as long as they match!).....
Rich i'm fitting mine up tonight so i'll take some piccys for you!
08-03-2007, 01:04 PM
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Oh and AP have changed their washer colours to universal (Martin told me one should of been stainless, the other gold!)
Thought i'd become colour blind.............Not to mention thick as 2 planks!!
Thought i'd become colour blind.............Not to mention thick as 2 planks!!
08-03-2007, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
you cant have semi floating disks,,, they either float or they dont
aps are semi floating,not full.
08-03-2007, 03:10 PM
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...well i am stunned by mike r/reyland as my ap kit was sposed to be fully floating 
...so it took my bike to find out the ap kits are not what they say on the tin 
i hope you will ammend your sales patter
...so it took my bike to find out the ap kits are not what they say on the tin i hope you will ammend your sales patter
08-03-2007, 04:10 PM
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...no on cars you just get floating.....NOT fully floating...LOL....seriously i thought there was something wrong with the bike they are so loose 
..but i have been assured when warmed up they are the bollocks
..but i have been assured when warmed up they are the bollocks
08-03-2007, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...no on cars you just get floating.....NOT fully floating...LOL....seriously i thought there was something wrong with the bike they are so loose ..but i have been assured when warmed up they are the bollocks
..but i have been assured when warmed up they are the bollocks 
11-03-2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...well i am stunned by mike r/reyland as my ap kit was sposed to be fully floating ...
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11-03-2007, 11:24 AM
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...Martin i assumed cause mike told me that,you would have told him that..sorry 
There does seem to be some confusion over the semi/fully floating thing and i expect you didnt realise you could get both?..I mean it took my Duke for me to realise
There does seem to be some confusion over the semi/fully floating thing and i expect you didnt realise you could get both?..I mean it took my Duke for me to realise
11-03-2007, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...Martin i assumed cause mike told me that,you would have told him that..sorry There does seem to be some confusion over the semi/fully floating thing and i expect you didnt realise you could get both?..I mean it took my Duke for me to realise
There does seem to be some confusion over the semi/fully floating thing and i expect you didnt realise you could get both?..I mean it took my Duke for me to realise You could get the 'loose disc' feel by increasing the axial float.
11-03-2007, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Franco
So donned my sherlock holmes cap & found out you can fit the bobbins either way! (as long as they match!).....
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Look at the pdf for std bobbins (yours), the others use different bells and/or bobbins!!
11-03-2007, 11:59 AM
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..so why is the std 916bp classed as semi floating where the disc hardly moves like my 355mm kit and 916sp fully floating which feels as if the disc will fall off?...Obviously the more float the better braking when hot...so really your kits are semi floating even though they float the same way but just not to the full meaning?
11-03-2007, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
..so why is the std 916bp classed as semi floating where the disc hardly moves like my 355mm kit and 916sp fully floating which feels as if the disc will fall off?...Obviously the more float the better braking when hot...so really your kits are semi floating even though they float the same way but just not to the full meaning?
Get some pictures of the discs on both bikes and lets see the difference! The bike guys seem to term semi floating as the riveted type and fully floating as a similar set up as the AP, that's my take on it anyway.... could be wrong as I'm not into bikes.
11-03-2007, 06:20 PM
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Phil,
You're clutching at straws, as the AP's are fully floating. If you look at they way they are mounted, they have full freedom of movement in both axis as Martin describes. The semi-floating ones you are talking about on the bikes do not (again as Martin describes).
You're clutching at straws, as the AP's are fully floating. If you look at they way they are mounted, they have full freedom of movement in both axis as Martin describes. The semi-floating ones you are talking about on the bikes do not (again as Martin describes).
11-03-2007, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Franco
Anybody got a front & rear picture of a 355 floating disk fitted to the bell (with bolts & bobbins assembled).
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Lay disc face up
Install the float bushes (or bobbins as you call em )
Turn over and fit the screws (and if supplied domed washers - dome up)
Add loctite now (not prior to screwing in)
Torque to 11 - 14Nm
HTH
11-03-2007, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Originally Posted by Franco
Anybody got a front & rear picture of a 355 floating disk fitted to the bell (with bolts & bobbins assembled).
Cheers
Cheers
Lay disc face up
Install the float bushes (or bobbins as you call em )
Turn over and fit the screws (and if supplied domed washers - dome up)
Add loctite now (not prior to screwing in)
Torque to 11 - 14Nm
HTH
11-03-2007, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Turn over and fit the screws (and if supplied domed washers - dome up)
but who rattled your cage They are used as anti rattle washers Gareth
Try putting some in your pocket
11-03-2007, 08:38 PM
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ok, daft question, but could you convert conventional "bolt up" type rotors/bells to floating just by swapping the bolts for "bobbins/bushes and the correct nuts/washers?"
11-03-2007, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
ok, daft question, but could you convert conventional "bolt up" type rotors/bells to floating just by swapping the bolts for "bobbins/bushes and the correct nuts/washers?"
11-03-2007, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...ok semi floating from a 748r model
..fully floating sp model
...as said by Tim earlier ap's are NOT fully floating...
..fully floating sp model
...as said by Tim earlier ap's are NOT fully floating...