bonus_boy

i have a 1.6cvh in my mk4 on a 4speed...

just wondering what the 0-60 and topspeed is about...any ideas?

also what kind of price and bhp gains would i expect of cams..manifold and exhaust etc...

oh any has anybody got pictures that they could post of cvh engines with different rocker covers on....maybe black or white one...and the manifold heat wrapped....

cheers

bonus_boy

help help help help

bud-weis

0-60 in around 10.5 seconds and top speed of about 105mph would be my guess.

DON'T bother tuning it though,save for a faster car

bonus_boy

well i want to rs it....but it wont be yet.....so was just going to get exhaust done n manifold...and 5 speed box....would i see much off them...heard that the 5speed box off a 1.4 is better and would be alot quicker than the 4 speed

bud-weis

it'd be marginal tbh.....i'd just wait til you can insure summat quicker,save up til then

bonus_boy

il just save up for an rsturbo engine..which i will build up and turn it into a full rs....

bonus_boy

does anybody know the price of a 4-2-1 manifold...pref ashley.

or has anyone got one forsale?

LeviA

I remember my old XR2, ran great on a 4 branch Janspeed manifold and exhaust

K&N carb filter did it wonders too, CVH Kent fast road cam something like CVH23...

Makes a load of difference, fun to work on too the CVH!

bonus_boy

did you have to change anythink with the cam.....the cams only an idea as i know they can be quite expensive.....and i only wanted to free up some restricted bhp.....about 200quid i reckon i could get manifold/exhaust and k&n so...should sound alot nicer and be abit more pokey

mark_24v_wiring

iTrader: (1)

Just dump a 16v zetec 2.0 in it job sorted 0-60 in 7.7sec on a rst 5 speed



Worked for me

bonus_boy

Lets not and say we did lmao....


its either rs lump in the summer....or going to build up a 2.1 zvh

crazycage

what about a turbo lump if you want a good top speed and 0-60

mark_24v_wiring

iTrader: (1)

Whats wrong with using a full on zetec then? Ok so i know its personal choice but i did manage to make a 220bhp rst think twice with a std 2.0 check performance ford in there stats section look for chubby a white s2 then look at my times mark rogers xr3i.

Have a 2.0 set of throttle bodies ecu adj pullys etc just cant bring myself to fit it to my current xr

bonus_boy

i wouldnt mind a zetec ye....but if i did get round to an engine conversion id go straight for an rs......thats just me....

and for crazycage....cheers mate

mark_24v_wiring

iTrader: (1)

Each to there own mate would be boring if we all had the same ideas.

xr-stu

dont bother witha ZVH fella, theyre pointless conversions imo now zetecs are so cheap!

ive tuned the arse of cvhs when i had my old xr (in the sig) i ended up with an overbored (1640cc) bottom end thatd been lightend and balanced, a 'stage3' heavily ported and hugely skimmed big valve head, piper 285 cam, webber DMTR carb and a few other bits, its was a seriously quick little car, scared the arse off alot of more expensive and powerful cars. i ended up in pocket when i sold it aswell as id bought different engines and stripped and sold them in bits etc etc so got my money back and made extra. makign them go well can be done, but having gone from that spec engine, to a std 1.8 zetec, i wouldnt go back to cvh again. the 1.8 lump was only ever running about 125bhp, but was quicker than the cvh just down to torque and its powerband. the cvh had to be revved hard to do anything.

definatly get yourself a 16v motor mate, you wont regret it 2.0 lumps can be picked up for less than the price of an exhuast system for your cvh these days

also, if you wanna go quick on the cheap, get as much weight out the car as physiclly posible!

bonus_boy

cheers mate.... top stuff there

il just have to think about it i guess..... definate thinking about the zetec conversion...as it would be alot smoother aswell, i might just keep the cvh standardish for the moment, get it running a tad better etc and save for a conversion later in the year

bonus_boy

can i ask how much does the manifold heat wrap effect the sound? as i dont want it to reduce it to much, also does it improve anythink else than sound restricting and keeping the engine bay temp down?

cheers

bonus_boy

anybody?

st3v3

i had 3 ashley manifolds on one of my xr3i's everyone cracked,

i wouldnt bother if i was you,in the end i ported my original cast manifold.

I know its frustrating as a young un just starting out in tuning would but as many people have said, save you pennies and get a good ,quick car when you can afford the insurance.

bonus_boy

but you see the plans are to keep this car for a while yet....the only plans are as yet are 4-2-1 manifold....straight through pipe...k&n...so thats only a few quid..

and il save up in the mean time...

but would i see much difference of those changes? and much in sound?

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

All it does is reduce under bonnet temps.

As my brother said the 2.0 zetec is a good motor.

Steve.

cossie4i+

iTrader: (15)

Here you go a whole 2.0 mondeo for Ł100 now.

https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=233249

Engine and wiring loom etc.

Cheaper than even buying a cam for the cvh and more powerfull.

Steve.

xr-stu

ashley exhuasts are just generally piles of fucking wank only fit for the scrap heap. magnex, janspeed, etc seem to be the ones worth getting.


i think if youre happy with the car and just want it to go better then you should tune it, fuck saving up for a quicker car! its very satisfying being able to take the car out after youve done something to it and feel an improvement even if its a very slight one. more interesting than being sat on the computer searching ebay and autotrader for the car you cant afford yet!

if it were me mate, id start collecting parts for a zetec conversion, get some uprated suspension and rs brakes or whatever on there, find someone local whose handy and willing to help out and itll be a proper little weapon when your finished!

bonus_boy

well im saving for some coilovers to be honest or a decent suspension kit, what gains (bhp) would i get from a 4-2-1 ashley manifold and straight through pipe on my cvh? also i will be adding a k&n just to make it breath a lil better...and what about a kent/piper cam..what gains?

cheers

Rick

the 2.1 ZVH NON turbo is a good engine. It's torquier than the 16v zetec too. For cheapness though, bang in a 2 litre zetec, put it on carbs, and u will have over 150hp, possibly 170.

For ultimate power, the turbo route obviously. A 1600CVH turbo is going to do 170 minimum, with massive tuning potential.

bonus_boy

lol....i will def turbo it soon enough but i want to tune this cvh a lil first lol......

what bhp gain from a 4-2-1 manifold..n straight trough pipe?

xr-stu

the cvh manifolds are shite, so a 4 branch and decent exhuast might give you a little less low down grunt, but itll pull alot better all th way to the redline. k+n wont make any noticable difference on the road other than itll sound a bit better. piper 285 cam with give you a decent increase in performance right across the rev range.

if you can get hold of a webber DMTR carb, twin choke jobbie fitted as an upgrade to the DFT, itll make a nice difference in performance too. real nice carb to drive with aswell as you get a major kick up the arse when you open the 2nd choke!