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Old 06-01-2007, 10:22 AM
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Iam going to sort this situation out as
NOT THAT I HAVE TOO
NOT THAT I AM FORCED TOO
NOT THAT IAM DUTY BOUND TOO
because I offered to when he called me over 3 months later,I do not take lightly of having basically thretening letters sent to me telling me you want a refund,
I will expect and appologie form you and espeically your mate Will for getting invloved with somehting that has nothing to do with him
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
I think that should be a lesson to us all!
Old 06-01-2007, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Iam going to sort this situation out as
NOT THAT I HAVE TOO
NOT THAT I AM FORCED TOO
NOT THAT IAM DUTY BOUND TOO
because I offered to when he called me over 3 months later,I do not take lightly of having basically thretening letters sent to me telling me you want a refund,
I will expect and appologie form you and espeically your mate Will for getting invloved with somehting that has nothing to do with him
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
cant get fairer than that
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I can see this from both sides but without wishing to upset Pete (sorry if I do ) I think that maybe Pete should have taken one of three options: exhange the crank for another std/std crank, refund the money paid or do nothing at all due to length of time taken.

I don't think that grinding the crank without the customers prior authorisation is acceptable as the crank is not what it should have been in the first place.
Iam not upset I take on board others opinions,BUT when the crank was sold it was sold std which needs a polish,NOTE thats was my opinion after inspecting it,NOW Ima not an engineer so visual checks I can only do.
NOW the guy wnated a std or .25 crank the proof is there for all to see,NOW when hw bought it WHY wasnt it checked in the first place and then if the good were not satifactory I would have replaced refunded or paid for a grind,NOW thats what should have happend NOW over 3 months later he comes asking for a refund as the crank is bent,NOW thats taking the piss BUT I offered to try and help him out when he told me the trouble which he had,NOW didnt have to do anything BUT thats not how I work.
I had the crank ground to make sure it was perfect and it is now within the tolerence he wanted in the first place,
Old 06-01-2007, 10:35 AM
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i can appreciate the time scale, but why should the buyer have to get the crank checked to make sure its what you said it was ?

As a dealer surely it should be your responsibility to get it checked properly by a professional so you know that what youre selling is what you say it is?

You cant just sell stuff to people for top money based on your guesswork.
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
I think that should be a lesson to us all!
Martin that modified exhaust manifold i bought from you 7 months ago..i have deceided i dont like the welding done on it...its not neat enuff can i have a refund?

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Originally Posted by XR-RS
i can appreciate the time scale, but why should the buyer have to get the crank checked to make sure its what you said it was ?

As a dealer surely it should be your responsibility to get it checked properly by a professional so you know that what youre selling is what you say it is?

You cant just sell stuff to people for top money based on your guesswork.
good point,BUT traders cannot be held responable for everthing you know what if it would have been cracked ?? its up the the buyer to either accept or return good within a certain time period,
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
I think that should be a lesson to us all!
Martin that modified exhaust manifold i bought from you 7 months ago..i have deceided i dont like the welding done on it...its not neat enuff can i have a refund?

come on dont lets turn this into shite there has been some quite valid points oput accross for both trader and custumer to consider in the future
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...i checked straight away and found my switch not illuminated...and it still isnt 3 months later
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...i checked straight away and found my switch not illuminated...and it still isnt 3 months later
god Iam bad person now beat me rusty barbed wire I have now made a note on my desk espeically for not bad service considering the switch was free,but thats the type of guy Iam
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
I think that should be a lesson to us all!
Martin that modified exhaust manifold i bought from you 7 months ago..i have deceided i dont like the welding done on it...its not neat enuff can i have a refund?

come on dont lets turn this into shite there has been some quite valid points oput accross for both trader and custumer to consider in the future
Pete...i see nothing valid said at all....its common sense you dont sell something assuming...if your wanting top money you have to be sure its what it says on the tin..now thats VALID posting
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
My I suggest in the future you check what you have bought as others may not be so undertsanding as me
I think that should be a lesson to us all!
Martin that modified exhaust manifold i bought from you 7 months ago..i have deceided i dont like the welding done on it...its not neat enuff can i have a refund?

come on dont lets turn this into shite there has been some quite valid points oput accross for both trader and custumer to consider in the future
Pete...i see nothing valid said at all....its common sense you dont sell something assuming...if your wanting top money you have to be sure its what it says on the tin..now thats VALID posting
agin you are miss understanding the issue,as a trader i will be informing custumers in writing of the time of warranty I allow,and in return custumers my check there good within a reasonable time scale
simple isnt it
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...i checked straight away and found my switch not illuminated...and it still isnt 3 months later
god Iam bad person now beat me rusty barbed wire I have now made a note on my desk espeically for not bad service considering the switch was free,but thats the type of guy Iam

..i cant really understand what you said there but if i guess you are saying the switch you sent me was free in the first place? I was unaware the switch was free so me the customer is in the wrong..i apologise..i assumed i had paid for it along with the other parts sent.
Old 06-01-2007, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
I don't think that grinding the crank without the customers prior authorisation is acceptable as the crank is not what it should have been in the first place.
without wishing to label you a "bandwagon jumper" the guy said to get it ground when he returned it to pete

i really do feel for the poor bloke wo's shelled out loads of money for an engine thats gone bang, but putting all the blame on the guy who's sold him a crank tha has sat in a corner (allegedly) for 3 months before getting fitted doesn't change the fact that he's still out of his warranty by 2 months

from what i'm reading here, pete has bent over backwards for this guy to help him out and he's got no thanks for it, no wonder everyones complaining about traders if they only hear one side of the story

if petes been on the blower to the guy to sort things out then fine, but if it were me in his shoes i'd be telling the buyer that he should have not let otehr people try and influence the pf jruy on this
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I have just spoken to Jamie and as I said in an earlier post hes a nice genuine guy and the conversation we ha dhad had just confirmed this.
There is someone else in the equastion who has stirred the shit Iam suer jamie will confirm this soon and i will be expecting a public appologie from him
as the satnds now with the crank is the same as when Jamie fetched it back too me I agreed to help him out amd he is more than happy with that
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
...i checked straight away and found my switch not illuminated...and it still isnt 3 months later
god Iam bad person now beat me rusty barbed wire I have now made a note on my desk espeically for not bad service considering the switch was free,but thats the type of guy Iam

..i cant really understand what you said there but if i guess you are saying the switch you sent me was free in the first place? I was unaware the switch was free so me the customer is in the wrong..i apologise..i assumed i had paid for it along with the other parts sent.
I threw it in for free as how much can you chage somone for a switch BUT I will sned you another no problem just remind me which one it was
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surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!


its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work
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at least Pete is sorting this out after all the posts on here,he did not really have to.

why could you not use the .25 crank with ew shells though,as you did ask for a .25 in your post.

is it just the money you were charged for it.
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!


its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work



Mate you are obviously not aware that being a car trader you are by law bound by a 3 month warranty...he obviously didnt know that which is lucky for you!
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As I have sid the issue is sorted between my seld and Jamie which was aggreed weeks ago
The problem being it was someone else who sent me the snotty letter and NOT Jamie which got my back up I now know its was not Jamie but his gob shite mate RWD will or whatever his name is,hes the one whom has caused all the bother so I will stand on helping Jamie out
For the record aftyer speking to Jamie this morning he was quite happy to accept the over long time sacle and expected not to get anything as he admitted it was his fault
however I do not shit up people backs and i will stnd on helping him as I agreed in the first place
It his fucking mouthy mate who has started the troublemfucking typical isnt it someone who knows sod all about the situation
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!
28 day fit for purpose actually unless stated otherwise.not 3 months

its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work



Mate you are obviously not aware that being a car trader you are by law bound by a 3 month warranty...he obviously didnt know that which is lucky for you!
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just my 2 pence worth but after 3 months i wouldnt have changed it.like already said how does the trader know that the crank hasnt been used in that 3 month period,or infact that the buyer himself ddidnt drop it on removing it from the original packing? 3 months on a second hand part is way to long and the buyer has forfeited any rights to a refund by not getting it checked immediatelly on receival.for someone also in the trade,youd think that was the first thing he'd do on receiving a second hand part
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Originally Posted by Pete,RS Specialists
I have just spoken to Jamie and as I said in an earlier post hes a nice genuine guy and the conversation we ha dhad had just confirmed this.
There is someone else in the equastion who has stirred the shit Iam suer jamie will confirm this soon and i will be expecting a public appologie from him
as the satnds now with the crank is the same as when Jamie fetched it back too me I agreed to help him out amd he is more than happy with that
there has been a lot of things said that shouldn't of been, and a friend has also got involved when he shouldn't of but that was out of my control,
pete has always said he would help me out which i am greatfull for, the situation has gone to far now due to 3rd partys. the problem is now getting sorted between ourselves, i know pete doesn't have to warrent the part due to time scale, as we all know he never said he wouldn't help me, i would still use him in the future.

cheeRS

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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
a couple of hours to fit strut braces!!!try 10 minutes at the very maximum!!you really need to get some knoledge before "your tuner" (how pathetic does that sound) removes any more from your wallet.
so its a 10 minute job then, I was told to fit the braces properly the shocks all needed dropping hence the time scale sounded ok to me, is that not the case then?
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its good to hear its been sorted
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Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
Originally Posted by AndyBrew
i have just read my first post and realised when I said "getting ripped off" that was not intended at reputable traders but because I spend £X pounds with my tuner he looks after me with regards what does need doing and what doesn't for example:

TurboSystems: took my car in this week with regards a stage 1 chip problem and also took my strut braces along, while there ordered my Koni kit and they suggested that they fit the strut braces at the same time as doing the Konis, where it would of been easy to of fitted the strut braces and charged me a couple of hours labour for doing so!

hence my post, I wish I did know one end of a spanner from the other,I really do
a couple of hours to fit strut braces!!!try 10 minutes at the very maximum!!you really need to get some knoledge before "your tuner" (how pathetic does that sound) removes any more from your wallet.

Take your head out of your own arse and get of your high horse you fucking cunt!

not everyone is blessed with your apparent wealth of knowledge and experience... so quit the belittle bollocks!
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Originally Posted by AndyBrew
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
a couple of hours to fit strut braces!!!try 10 minutes at the very maximum!!you really need to get some knoledge before "your tuner" (how pathetic does that sound) removes any more from your wallet.
so its a 10 minute job then, I was told to fit the braces properly the shocks all needed dropping hence the time scale sounded ok to me, is that not the case then?
Andy, yes its not a 10 minute job.. shocks have to be dropped to have the braces bolted in properly. I had to do this with my GGR/Tarcal brace (which is the one you should have got btw )
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Originally Posted by AndyBrew
Originally Posted by TF Rallyesport
a couple of hours to fit strut braces!!!try 10 minutes at the very maximum!!you really need to get some knoledge before "your tuner" (how pathetic does that sound) removes any more from your wallet.
so its a 10 minute job then, I was told to fit the braces properly the shocks all needed dropping hence the time scale sounded ok to me, is that not the case then?
no mate its not a 10 min job if you want the brace to be fitted properly so it does the job..
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Still no answer to my question

DO PF USERS EXPECT A 3 MONTH WARRANTY WITH SECOND HAND PARTS ???

Gen question
might be harsh, but yes I would - If the part supplied was incorrect then I would be expecting the supplier to sort it out , but then again I don't take the piss, and fairs fair in my book, there are a lot of people out there who take advantage of a trader

so if you bought a car off someone that was not a trader and in 3 mths it shit itself you would blame the bloke who sold it?i know this isnt the same situation but its still 2nd hand.if a car goes pop ok its rough but its a 2nd hand item and shit happens.its the same for parts.if you leave it 2mths 8mths how can that be right to go back to the supplier and say its fucked.surely your fault for not checking right away? and if building a big spec engine surely you make sure it a1 before anything else?

i dont know pete and havent dealt with him and i dont know jamie but as i i work in a shop i understand just what people think they can do and it bugs me at times at what they think is acceptable behaviour.

either way i hope its sorted for the best interest of both parties
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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!


its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work



Mate you are obviously not aware that being a car trader you are by law bound by a 3 month warranty...he obviously didnt know that which is lucky for you!
i think you are wrong phil
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Think it's best if this thread is moved now seeing as tho it's going off course and is being resoved with the said 2 people

Just my 2p's worth of course
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
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surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!


its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work



Mate you are obviously not aware that being a car trader you are by law bound by a 3 month warranty...he obviously didnt know that which is lucky for you!
i think you are wrong phil

Look into it mate my uncle is a car trader(all his life) the law has only been around a couple of years.....its to protect customers from buying lemons!
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Sounds to me like rwd cossie will has had the rough end of the stick for trying to help a mate out, This obviously wasnt sorted to begin with as the post would never of been started!!!
He has tryed to defend a mate due to problems with his engine and now is being made a scapegoat after being bollocked by pete. All j18 had to do was ask his mate not to get involved.... ie. PM PHONE EMAIL ect. Looks like a kicking from both partys to me!!

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Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
Originally Posted by Bosch-Man
Originally Posted by fordsportjay
surely buying a used part always carries a risk.the reason people buy used parts is usually because they cannot/do not want to pay for a new one.

i think pete is right due to the timescale involved and i would have said the same.

i sold a car to a guy last year with no warranty.he called me 3 weeks later and said he had an oil pressure problem with it.i told him i sold him the car without warranty-he said no problem he would fit an oil pump himself.....6 months later i get a letter saying he has had to pay for a full engine build at £3000 and thinks i should pay it!!!

yes ok!


its one of these ugly no win situations for either side that pete is in and his side of the argument stands up very well,and if he does give a refund then he will "live and learn" and im sure it will never happen gain

but the only way these incidents cannot happen is if you fork out big money and buy new.

personally i would have had the reground crank back and fitted different bearings for what they cost....you cannot really build a 550 bhp engine on a budget though-surely? and expect it to last....


im glad i dont rely mainly on used parts as its fuckin hard work



Mate you are obviously not aware that being a car trader you are by law bound by a 3 month warranty...he obviously didnt know that which is lucky for you!
i think you are wrong phil

Look into it mate my uncle is a car trader(all his life) the law has only been around a couple of years.....its to protect customers from buying lemons!

so 10/20 year old cossies have to come with a 3 month warranty even if the receipt states they are sold as spares or repairs due to the age of the car?
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Yes, my old man has been in the car trade all is life and any car sold, regardless of age etc, has to come with a 3 month warranty. No more sold as seen etc.


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