M Brian

I need to change the stem seals on my car.

I know theres two types (one with a washer plate thing and one without)

but ive seen some advertised by PJ motorsport saying modified stem seals (£19.99)

any idea what they are?

do ford still do both types of seal and anyone have an approx price or can explain which applications have which type of seal?
cam fitted is supposed to be a piper t2 so not sure if I need a different type due to the springs or anything?

cheers

Spiky

iTrader: (1)

yeah they are the one's with the flat bit at the bottom which rests on the head

ML

Have a set if needed

Matt

M Brian

how much do you want for them matt? are they new and of the one piece type?

BTTT for more info about why they were modified and what they did this on?

the ford parts list the washers and seals separate?

JesseT

Ford only sells one type nowadays.

M Brian

do you know which one?

and is it best to run the 'modified' ones? or the ford ones?

PS - jesse do you have any of your info and things on your cars on a website? you only have your picture on the link? just wondering as Know youve doen many impressive things with your cars.

Bomber

Melv - Ford only sell the newest generation of stem seals now.

M Brian

mark- But I dont know which IS the new type of which is the type I should have??!

I take it separate washer and seal are the new ones??
are these poorer to use or something?

Rick

Melv - the PJ ones are the same as the later ones ford do which were modded with the hat to stop it sticking to the valve!

M Brian

cheers rick!

ML

Hi Melv

The ones ive got are the later ones, and they have always been like this from ford and i my opinion are the better type, However you will find that if you buy from a Motor Factor they will come in two pieces. Also i have noticed that when people have changed the seal to later ones they have left the washer part in the head and placed the complete stem seal on top

Regards Matt

oriont

surely you remove the spring washer and just use the stem seal/washer combined part on its own?
thanks
oriont

edd

if you have the old 2 piece ones and replace with top hat type THROW away the washers that will be left on the head. they normally dont fit over the old washers anyway which tells you theres a prob.

oriont

thats the way ive always done mine.
throw away washers and fit new seals on their own.
thanks
oriont

The Sludge

i had diesel valve stem seals fitted to mine, are stronger and last longer

JesseT

The old type seals are OKish for N/A aplications, but they get blown loose easily in turbo engine. Ford changed the type to the newer one piece type a LONG time ago but the two piece type still lives in other spare part shops.

Sorry, I don't have any gathered information of my car in the internet, but I'll be happy to answer if you have any questions. Also the picture is years old. I'm also building a non original S1 with the same management that I have found excellent. Rough spec:

DIY Megasquirt engine management with MS'n'EDIS code update.
DIY mapped fuelling and ignition
DIY ported efi cylinder head
Mondeo EDIS wasted-spark ignition, with multispark option.
DIY built wideband controller
S1 bottom end
mk5 Escort flywheel, inlet, throttle setup and head
GRS S1 intercooler with twin kenlowes
Magnex exhaust
Kent CVH 35 cam
Motocraft 071 plugs
DIY ecu controlled boost control
DIY hybrid gearbox
2.5bar MAP
Bosch greens
Knock sensing
All sort of gadgets...

Rick

dont but the non ford ones - they go hard and smoke quickly.

M Brian

whats that mean rick?? is that dont use the ford ones??

doh!! just paid £12 for some from there!??

Neil S

iTrader: (1)

Just get the 'top hat' type from ford - you'll be fine, and Im sure theyre much cheaper than 20 quid

Dont drop the collets in the sump

Neil.

M Brian

as above think i paid about £12 for them yesterday. (bought few other random things aswell )

oh yeah... rocker cover gasket! think its first time ive bought a geniune one? they have little metal dowels in them to stop excess clamping I think!! well cool. the motorfactor ones dont and mine usually leak!! lol


my next post will be.... will a collet do much damage if i just leave it rattling around!!

oh damn... think someones half inched my skyes compressor thing? anyone know if can get one cheaper than £14??

Neil S

iTrader: (1)

Theyre magnetic, and so is your sump

My girlfriends fiesta had one in there for about a year lol

I shit myself when i dropped it down the oilway

Neil.

M Brian

are the alloy sumps still magnetic?

grrr just started the thing up...started good but its breathing pretty heavy and smoking at idle! no doubt its fair fooked!!