New car dilmena, input and different views needed please
02-12-2006, 11:17 PM
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Right, so you'll do maybe 5 or 6?
If so, then having an out and out track car is wasted, when you can have a better and more fun car, and still use it every day.
I got caught up in that "trackday fever" that was going round. How many people actually have pure track cars? Usually the ones that have money to throw at them.
Just buy something quick, RWD, looks okay, and is fun, and you'll never be bored ever on track. All these people who are building 500bhp caged track cossies etc have usually missed the point - they're about fun, so buy something to enjoy on circuit.
If so, then having an out and out track car is wasted, when you can have a better and more fun car, and still use it every day.
I got caught up in that "trackday fever" that was going round. How many people actually have pure track cars? Usually the ones that have money to throw at them.
Just buy something quick, RWD, looks okay, and is fun, and you'll never be bored ever on track. All these people who are building 500bhp caged track cossies etc have usually missed the point - they're about fun, so buy something to enjoy on circuit.
03-12-2006, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
One car, not two.
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
I do 500-1000 miles a week....I HAVE to be 100% sure my car is gonna start/be in one piece on Monday morning. In my opinion there is no way you can drive a car really HARD and be sure it won't break/you won't crash it!
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Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
Originally Posted by RichardPON
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
03-12-2006, 12:43 PM
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Yes, Mike does use his car all the time, although he does have the luxury of a choice of vehicles.
When I used my MR2, it didn't break because I look after it. Tyres aren't expensive, and the oil change gets done twice as often - big deal.
You forget mate - I built an out and out track based cossie, and sold it before even driving it, as I couldn't see the point.
You want a caged, high performance racecar for the road? Stop messing around and go racing.
You can never be sure you wont crash on track, but as for something breaking, as long as you prep your car properly, there's no reason you should suffer any abnormal breakages, and some consumables will wear faster.
Bottom line is, trackdays are about fun, and not about outright speed, plus they're an expensive hobby. You can achieve just as much by having a fun reliable daily driver that you do the odd trackday with, as opposed to having and out and out track car.
When I used my MR2, it didn't break because I look after it. Tyres aren't expensive, and the oil change gets done twice as often - big deal.
You forget mate - I built an out and out track based cossie, and sold it before even driving it, as I couldn't see the point.
You want a caged, high performance racecar for the road? Stop messing around and go racing.
You can never be sure you wont crash on track, but as for something breaking, as long as you prep your car properly, there's no reason you should suffer any abnormal breakages, and some consumables will wear faster.
Bottom line is, trackdays are about fun, and not about outright speed, plus they're an expensive hobby. You can achieve just as much by having a fun reliable daily driver that you do the odd trackday with, as opposed to having and out and out track car.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Yes, Mike does use his car all the time, although he does have the luxury of a choice of vehicles.
When I used my MR2, it didn't break because I look after it. Tyres aren't expensive, and the oil change gets done twice as often - big deal.
You forget mate - I built an out and out track based cossie, and sold it before even driving it, as I couldn't see the point.
You want a caged, high performance racecar for the road? Stop messing around and go racing.
You can never be sure you wont crash on track, but as for something breaking, as long as you prep your car properly, there's no reason you should suffer any abnormal breakages, and some consumables will wear faster.
Bottom line is, trackdays are about fun, and not about outright speed, plus they're an expensive hobby. You can achieve just as much by having a fun reliable daily driver that you do the odd trackday with, as opposed to having and out and out track car.
When I used my MR2, it didn't break because I look after it. Tyres aren't expensive, and the oil change gets done twice as often - big deal.
You forget mate - I built an out and out track based cossie, and sold it before even driving it, as I couldn't see the point.
You want a caged, high performance racecar for the road? Stop messing around and go racing.
You can never be sure you wont crash on track, but as for something breaking, as long as you prep your car properly, there's no reason you should suffer any abnormal breakages, and some consumables will wear faster.
Bottom line is, trackdays are about fun, and not about outright speed, plus they're an expensive hobby. You can achieve just as much by having a fun reliable daily driver that you do the odd trackday with, as opposed to having and out and out track car.
Tyres aren't expensive but how do you change them between finishing a track day on a Sunday at 5pm and going to work on Monday morning at 8am? Spare set of wheels?
In my experiance looking after a car doesn't stop it breaking.
I'm not forgetting your Cossie but you're talking about a different thing. You spent £££££££££'s on a car you ended up not using, this thread [or me at least
] is talking about buying a cheap track day car [sub £4k].Each to there own but there is no way I would use my day-to-day car for track-days when you can pick up a GOOD track car for £2000.
The other thing is safety......I would not drive my car as hard as I do [down country lanes late at night etc... or on track] without a cage/harnesses - and I wouldn't entertain having a cage in a day-to-day car.
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