New car dilmena, input and different views needed please
01-12-2006, 04:38 PM
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New car dilmena, input and different views needed please
ok,
bmw is forsale, as it's costing a fortune in petrol
over 200 a month 
as far as i can see i got two options
option 1, get a pretty nice pug 306 GTI-6 and use it for both work, and track days.
option 2, get a pug 306 hdi version for work and get a £1000 track car, i.e. golf gti, or a pug 205 gti
bmw is forsale, as it's costing a fortune in petrol
over 200 a month as far as i can see i got two options
option 1, get a pretty nice pug 306 GTI-6 and use it for both work, and track days.
option 2, get a pug 306 hdi version for work and get a £1000 track car, i.e. golf gti, or a pug 205 gti
01-12-2006, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
306 Rallye 
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01-12-2006, 05:12 PM
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Trouble is Spiky HDI's are as expensive as 306GTi-6 so would be even more money.
If you can afford it go option with two cars, as easier for track days not smashing up your everyday car
But does work out expensive taxing and runing 2 cars.
how many miles u doing, to £200?
I do £120 a month in fuel easy but i suspect im doing more miles than you are on £200
If you can afford it go option with two cars, as easier for track days not smashing up your everyday car
But does work out expensive taxing and runing 2 cars.how many miles u doing, to £200?
I do £120 a month in fuel easy but i suspect im doing more miles than you are on £200
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306's are nice car's, not shit your pants scary, and no tourqe steer, turning circle is humerous Rallye is the stripped out light version, good for 15's on 1/4 mile, and not too sad round track.
Rallye is the stripped out light version, good for 15's on 1/4 mile, and not too sad round track.
01-12-2006, 05:12 PM
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having two cars is the best thing i ever did
totally frees you up
totally frees you up
Audi A4 estate for daily duties.
Fiesta RS Turbo for weekend fun
Escort RS Turbo for track and the odd Sunday blast
01-12-2006, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRS
Option 2 then get back out on track and enjoy yourself
01-12-2006, 05:14 PM
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Spiky,
just a thought , about petrol costs.. 306 GTI-6/Rallyes drink fuel quite bad too from what i have seen/been told!
Dunno why though
think they are pretty revvy lol
just a thought , about petrol costs.. 306 GTI-6/Rallyes drink fuel quite bad too from what i have seen/been told!
Dunno why though
think they are pretty revvy lol
01-12-2006, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Trouble is Spiky HDI's are as expensive as 306GTi-6 so would be even more money.
If you can afford it go option with two cars, as easier for track days not smashing up your everyday car But does work out expensive taxing and runing 2 cars.
how many miles u doing, to £200?
I do £120 a month in fuel easy but i suspect im doing more miles than you are on £200
If you can afford it go option with two cars, as easier for track days not smashing up your everyday car
But does work out expensive taxing and runing 2 cars.how many miles u doing, to £200?
I do £120 a month in fuel easy but i suspect im doing more miles than you are on £200
01-12-2006, 10:25 PM
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well, looking at the MPG of town driving for the gti-6,
i'm going to get a D turbo and not the HDI, as i think i'll go for a different option
and get a 306 d turbo and some thing else, maybe a gti-6 for track maybe even the rallye
soo just need to decide what track/weekend toy i want now
i guess it depends on how much i spend on the D turbo
i'm going to get a D turbo and not the HDI, as i think i'll go for a different option
and get a 306 d turbo and some thing else, maybe a gti-6 for track maybe even the rallye
soo just need to decide what track/weekend toy i want now
i guess it depends on how much i spend on the D turbo
02-12-2006, 12:29 AM
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If I was you, i'd get what i've got. Toyota Corolla Levin GT-Apex. (don't laugh, let me tell you why... )
It's a Toyota so they are reliable (although mine isn't ) and quite comfortable. They have a decent spec, air-con and electric sunroof on mine, some have half leather too. They are only a 1.6 so they are pretty cheap to run and you can get good MPG out of one. Also, build quality will be alot better than a Peugeot.
Now the good bits.... mine is a 4 cylinder 4A-GE engine (which is basically a copy of a Ford BDA), mine has a 20 valve head - 5 per cylinder (designed by Yamaha), VVT, individual throttle bodies, short ratio gearbox, lighter and stronger internals than a normal 4A-GE, and the best bit, they rev to 8,400rpm as standard.
Toyota quote them at 160bhp and 130ft/lb although they do tend to make a little less power than that as standard.
Mine has Toyota's 'Superstrut Suspension' which is basically like a double wishbone set-up. There are ball joints, links and bushes all over the place. The ride is very hard, you get no bodyroll at all. They have disks all around which seem to be more than good enough.
They really are a screamer of a car, quality engine with the brakes and chassis to match. Your going to think i've over exaggerating, but if your interested, your more than welcome to have a shot of it.
Mine is limited to 120mph (all jap imports are) and it'll hit that in 4th gear. It matched my mates Celica GT-Four ST185 (bigger turbo, FMIC, exhaust, etc but on standard boost) for straight line speed and could easily out handle it.
I'd be confident that a standard GTI-6 wouldn't be quicker around a track. They had a race series in Japan where they were used pretty much standard.
The best part is the price, they are cheap as chips
There is a downside though, prices for parts can be high and pretty much nothing on it is shared with UK cars, except for brake pads (MR2 Turbo on the front and Carina GTI-E on the rear).
This is mine...
There was a nice looking one that recently was on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...8301&rd=1&rd=1
)It's a Toyota so they are reliable (although mine isn't
) and quite comfortable. They have a decent spec, air-con and electric sunroof on mine, some have half leather too. They are only a 1.6 so they are pretty cheap to run and you can get good MPG out of one. Also, build quality will be alot better than a Peugeot.Now the good bits.... mine is a 4 cylinder 4A-GE engine (which is basically a copy of a Ford BDA), mine has a 20 valve head - 5 per cylinder (designed by Yamaha), VVT, individual throttle bodies, short ratio gearbox, lighter and stronger internals than a normal 4A-GE, and the best bit, they rev to 8,400rpm as standard.
Toyota quote them at 160bhp and 130ft/lb although they do tend to make a little less power than that as standard.Mine has Toyota's 'Superstrut Suspension' which is basically like a double wishbone set-up. There are ball joints, links and bushes all over the place. The ride is very hard, you get no bodyroll at all. They have disks all around which seem to be more than good enough.
They really are a screamer of a car, quality engine with the brakes and chassis to match. Your going to think i've over exaggerating, but if your interested, your more than welcome to have a shot of it.
Mine is limited to 120mph (all jap imports are) and it'll hit that in 4th gear. It matched my mates Celica GT-Four ST185 (bigger turbo, FMIC, exhaust, etc but on standard boost) for straight line speed and could easily out handle it.
I'd be confident that a standard GTI-6 wouldn't be quicker around a track. They had a race series in Japan where they were used pretty much standard.
The best part is the price, they are cheap as chips
There is a downside though, prices for parts can be high and pretty much nothing on it is shared with UK cars, except for brake pads (MR2 Turbo on the front and Carina GTI-E on the rear).
This is mine...
There was a nice looking one that recently was on ebay... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...8301&rd=1&rd=1
02-12-2006, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Escy
Originally Posted by Spiky
not ideal for track,
silverstone use them to take people on track rides,
they handle superb, and have a nice close ratio 6 speed box
02-12-2006, 12:09 PM
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I wasn't questioning how good a 306 is, more questioning what makes my car "not ideal" for track use, when compared to a 306 GTI-6.
It's technically superior and far more suited to track. Your welcome to drive it if you want, you'd be impressed.
I nearly bought a 306 Rallye, but was put off by the price, insurance and lack of toys.
I suppose it's down to what you like at the end of the day.
Torsion bar and a Citroen BX engine, each to their own...
It's technically superior and far more suited to track. Your welcome to drive it if you want, you'd be impressed.
I nearly bought a 306 Rallye, but was put off by the price, insurance and lack of toys.
I suppose it's down to what you like at the end of the day.
Torsion bar and a Citroen BX engine, each to their own...
02-12-2006, 12:11 PM
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200 a MONTH in fuel 
In a month, I usually crack about 900 miles, and that costs me the measley sum of £50 - gotta love the deepfat fryer on wheels
In a month, I usually crack about 900 miles, and that costs me the measley sum of £50 - gotta love the deepfat fryer on wheels
02-12-2006, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Escy
I wasn't questioning how good a 306 is, more questioning what makes my car "not ideal" for track use, when compared to a 306 GTI-6.
It's technically superior and far more suited to track. Your welcome to drive it if you want, you'd be impressed.
I nearly bought a 306 Rallye, but was put off by the price, insurance and lack of toys.
I suppose it's down to what you like at the end of the day.
Torsion bar and a Citroen BX engine, each to their own...
It's technically superior and far more suited to track. Your welcome to drive it if you want, you'd be impressed.
I nearly bought a 306 Rallye, but was put off by the price, insurance and lack of toys.
I suppose it's down to what you like at the end of the day.
Torsion bar and a Citroen BX engine, each to their own...
Gracey your just a Pikey though!!!
pmsl i soo want a cheap oil burner to chuckl chip fat in!!! pmsl, think the BMW is going to have to go in new year...........
02-12-2006, 01:17 PM
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Be careful with the Electic windows on the 306 they have a little plastic clip holding them in the top corner that holds it in place when going up and down and they wear and the window drops i had it on mine easy to replace and only £1 odd But a right pain when it drops folward when your out
i had it on mine easy to replace and only £1 odd But a right pain when it drops folward when your out
02-12-2006, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
PMSL gti-6 are awsome for track
02-12-2006, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
Rhys
£50 does around 220-250 miles back and forth work
£50 does around 220-250 miles back and forth work
have you considered a Clio Williams? can pick them up now for next to nowt, easily tweeked to see you into the mid to high 14's up the 1/4, handle nicely... it was the best handling fwd hatch til the gti-6 came along. i know theyre french
but so is the gti-6
02-12-2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by NIL 7717
i,d say two cars myself.i what happens if you break it on track or worse crash.then you are screwed for getting about'which aint good.
(he did'nt like the boot)
02-12-2006, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyRST
Originally Posted by Rhys
PMSL gti-6 are awsome for track
Spiky dont buy one
02-12-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spiky
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Pay back for wrighting on my windows @ the berks meet way back when i had the 110 deffender and it was covered in MUD Gay some thing ect ect
02-12-2006, 11:05 PM
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One car, not two.
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
02-12-2006, 11:11 PM
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i did several with the saff, and only one didn't drive home.
although i'm excluding pod from that
only did one this year and drove home, ....lotus
last year 2005 i did 2 i think, but would have done more if the escort had run right.
although i'm excluding pod from that
only did one this year and drove home, ....lotus
last year 2005 i did 2 i think, but would have done more if the escort had run right.
02-12-2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
One car, not two.
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
What's the point of having an out and out "track car" for four or less trackdays a year?
All that stuff about using a car on track on the Sunday, and not being able to use it on the Monday is bollox. Mike R uses a 400bhp Escort Cosworth on 15+ trackdays a year, and drives home from every one.
I bought my MR2 and did 7 trackdays in the year in it, and still used it as a daily driver.
All this "track car" nonsense is getting well out of hand. How many did you do last year?
