Terry Tibbs

How long do you have after your car has ran out of tax before you get the fine?

I know it sounds stupid but my ghey boss paid me for a flat week this week and i went on a spending spree last week so I can't afford the bloody tax until friday (tax runs out thursday 30/11/06) This will be a day after, am I still alright to pop to the post office and get the tax disc? or is it ALL done online now? Or will I get charged a fine for not having it taxed or SORN?

Cheers.

Chipped UK LTD

As a rule, 28 days is ok (if you dont drive it.)

Redkop

Wrong!

No time at all unless you SORN the car. It's all computerised and you will get an automatic £80 fine winging it's way to you within 2 weeks.

Chipped UK LTD

Wrong.

You have 28 days from the end of your tax to sorn your vehicle so there is no way they can find you guilty (unless you are driving the car of course) because all you would have to say is you sent off a sorn document.

28 days it is.

Redkop

Don't talk bullshit! Do a search on Google.

Taxing it the day after is OK though as Flip asked.

CossieRob

But I've recently taxed a car over a week after it ran out and didn't get a fine!

tregmatt

iTrader: (3)

the day your tax is due, you ve either tax it or sorn it off road, you can do this in the post office or on computer useing your retaxing form and within two weekes you get a letter back from dvla, you dont get any time to mess around or you end up with a fine and theres nothing you can do about it

BlueSmoke

I've taxed cars upto a week after they've run out and haven't been fined.

lamb chops

I taxed my wife’s car three weeks after the tax ran out, no fine. You have to back tax of course though. You think there big government computer is as efficient as there making out, just think of the CA system

Chipped UK LTD

You have 28 days for a sorn document to go through, this is why (as long as the car is OFF the road) you wont/cant get a fine.

Let me explain.........

IF the computer at the dvla issued immediate fines to everyone over by just one day they would be issuing fines too everyone really applying for sorn.
this would cause a backlog of work with crippling effects too the system as people write in and correctly argue the case and win.
Costing the dvla many hundreds of thousands.

This is why they dont issue tickets within 28 days.

Now, if you are caught driving it is an offence although after only a couple of days it is VERY ulikely you would get fined as you could explain this as forgetting and as long as you dont have a history of this it would be hard to convict in a court as long as reasonable doubt exists of you forgetting.

Yes, i know forgetting is no defence but i think you get my drift.

lamb chops

Yep I agree with Chip, thinking about it when I sorned the cossie it even said if you are going to sorn wait 14 days after the tax disks runs out before applying.. that could have been on the website, defo read it somewhere though.

PaulCossie

No your wrong.... i've taxed my every day car 3 weeks after the tax was due (i did however tax it to carry on from where it left off) as i was away on a skiing holiday.

Never had a problem.... and as above you have 28 days as long as your not driving it on the road and if you were you could probably get away with a week out of date.

Redkop

Just because you got away without a fine, doesn't make it that you are right!

Chipped UK LTD

I dont want to get into another argument with you red, but seriosuly, this is the way it is.

You legally have 28 days to either sorn or tax a vehicle.
Of course legally you dont even have one day if your using it although in most cases you wouldnt get fined if it were an obvious mistake and within a very small time frame.

Clare

Well im gonna piss on all your bonfires

A fine is supposed to automatically be issued after 14 days if a car is not re-taxed or SORN´d. However, this meant they ended up firing out fines left right and centre and so I believe they have unofficially extended this period to 28 days until the thick people get to grips with the taxing system.

In answer to the original question tho, yes you can do it the day after, yes you can also do it at most main Post Offices.

BlueSmoke

I don't get that statement? If none of us got fines then he isn't wrong is he?

Rs Gary

you have 14 days to tax your car as i PHONED up dvla and asked them as a car was dumped along my road with an out of date disc,the lady asked when the tax had run out and i said "6months ago" to which she replied"well thats past the 2 weeks we give the owner then"
cheeRS gary
AKA shrek
ps thats if the car is not driven

EssexMikeSi

iTrader: (3)

i bought another shell for my rs turbo which the last owner had sorned, but didnt realise i then had to sorn it myself once owning it so didnt for 5months. i then decided maybe i should and it come up online that they had no record of the car bein taxed or whatever for 6months and that i could recieve a fine of up to 3grand. still no heard anythig yet mind u, 6months on

p.s dvla, your a bunch of wankers and your telephone system is shite, incase any of the representatives read this.

DaveZS

If a car is sorned, how does a change in ownership change its sorn status?

EssexMikeSi

iTrader: (3)

because wen u read the small print it states that wen wnership changes, the new owner must declare it sorn under their ownership. stupid rule, i know

tabetha

I regularly leave mine until the last day of the month in which it's due.
I t is as you know BACKDATED TO THE FIRST DAY OF THE MONTH IN WHICH YOU ASK FOR THE TAX TO START, so no way you are going to get fine or anything, unless you lie about sorn and still use it etc.
Never had a problem as the powers that be are not silly and will see what you do first, thye are WAITING FOR YOU TO LIE ABOUT USING CAR, and saying you're not.
Imagine if you taxed it after 15 days but a fine was sent out after 14 and got lost in post, who's fault is it ?, you have still paid for the whole month.
tabetha
ps been doing this at least five years, yet to hear anything

Katie

I usually do mine a couple of days late because sods law as I spot it it's expired on the saturday ...so I get it on the monday etc...a day or two has never been a problem for me

JohnnyB

It used to be 14 days.

rsturbowhite

av left couple off my fleet car for up to two month an stil i havent had a fine , even tho i deserve one ,dvla not that quick at eny thing

xr_craig

iTrader: (2)

Shit, i better do my car then

GiRO

is there anyway to find out if my car is sorn'ed or not? cos i bought my car 3 weeks ago without tax so i have no idea if its been done or not, and i was waitin till 1st dec to tax it.. to be honest i forgot bout all this sorn stuff till i read this

focusv8

Do a vehicle enquiry, it shows tax or Sorn:

Vehicle status= SORN not due.
Date of liability= Date when Sorn will run out.

If its taxed it will say Licence not due and date it runs out.

http://www.vehiclelicence.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/index.jsp

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pjv7771

a lass from the dvla told me unofficially that they wont give you any hassle till 3 to 4 weeks after your tax has expired, from the horses mouth !

GiRO

PaulCossie

^^^^^ what he said

turbo1973

i thought it was 14 days

Eagle

iTrader: (2)

its 15 days ..

mick

iTrader: (1)

the problem is that you can still be done for "failing to display a valid tax disc..."

Anonymous

I dont know the time involved, so cant comment on that.

But with regards to the logic that "none of us got fines so it must be ok"

I drive up the last bit of 30mph road to my house at 40mph+ normally as its a rural road with utterly no reason to be a 30mph limit, so i dont stick to it.
Ive never been fined for doing this, neither has ALL the other traffic that ive seen doing the same, but it does NOT mean that we cant be, we've just been lucky so far.

That was the logic of the argument that just cause a few of you have got away with it doesnt mean its ok to do it.

xr2i-carl

when my rst was off the road i was in the process of moving house etc

and i left it without tax for 8 months and only found out i had loadsa letters when my uncle popped into the old house.

threatened court etc, just sorned the fooker and all was OK

dojj

iTrader: (3)

just done this and it says my tax is going ot be £190 for the modneo but only £175 for the sierra
but the sierra is a 2.9 and the mondeo is only a 2.0

focusv8

Mondeo must be registered after March 2001 to get £190, it's then taxed on emissions value. (petrol car TC48 band f :
http://direct.gov.uk/Motoring/Owning...524&chk=X2gG9G

If not, DVLA are wrong, wouldn't that be a surprise..

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Daveesaunders

My mates phoned the DVLA regarding this and he was informed that nothing happens for two weeks. But I'm not inclined to belive the DVLA after all the bullshit they gave me when I was buying a shell.

As has been said above their phone system is shite you can never get to same person twice and you get a different answer every time.

Nookerhead

Definately WRONG!!! there is NO days grace, the tax runs out on whatever date is displayed on the disc,and thats that.!! The way to drive it with no tax is with trade plates.

dojj

iTrader: (3)

nope, it's rated as an M1

i might have to change my sig to "bollocks, more money this bloody car is going to cost me"