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Old 13-11-2006, 04:50 PM
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Default WHO ON HERE HAS HAD THE COSSIE ENGINE RE-BUILT

and how long after ownership???

just weighing up how reliable the engines are

think most people have had a re-build, and prob the owners before and after them have had/will have re-builds

cossie engines dont seem to reliable.....

1)have you had YOURS re-built in your ownership?
2) how many times?
3) did it have a re-built engine when you purchased the car
4)how many miles before it fucked up?


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is there such a thing as a 350+bhp reliable cossie engine?
Old 13-11-2006, 04:57 PM
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my escos engine was fooked due to it going to PTS

the missis's 3 door done a piston because i was pulling it off the clock from Heathrow to Brentwood on the M25

my 2wd done 100k with no problems,

the missis's 4x4 saff was 340bhp, 115k with no pronlems,

my 4x4, now stage 3 must be over 115k with no probs.

if you look after them they should be ok
Old 13-11-2006, 05:14 PM
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As Guzzler says engine life all depends on how its treated..... biggest mileage I've seen on an engine was just over 185k on a stg1 before it had its 1st rebuild....


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Old 13-11-2006, 05:15 PM
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my engine got taken out 1 week after I bought it for a rebuild perhaps thats why I got it so cheap
Old 13-11-2006, 05:18 PM
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Yep, only the once so far, but thats because its a MAD engine

I bought my cossie on 102k and on 114k i had a rebuild. See my sig for rough spec. Will be changing to GT30 and Autronics in the new year hopefully. will be good to see how much a head with standard ports and a bd14 inlet can cope with
Old 13-11-2006, 05:29 PM
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I bought my car with about 118k it was stage 1 tuned, i then threw in the greens,chip,pectel board,3 bar etc and ran it up to 133k ish before having a rebuild (M.A.D) upgrading the brakes at the same time(vitally important) as long as the engine has been put together by someone who knows what they are doing and are treated with respect i think they can be very reliable, its usually other things that shit their pants, gearboxes,driveshafts etc all the joys of costworth ownership


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Old 13-11-2006, 05:34 PM
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whats respect, surely you cant go driving them like a granny, thats not what having a cossie is about,
its bout having fun, thrashing down the 1/4m pastin seberios and the like
Old 13-11-2006, 05:35 PM
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had mine for 4 years .. has been tracked a few times .. no problems atall .. original engine @ 106k
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i brought my car at 125k, with the intention it would need a build at that mileage ,but the car went on with no probs in stage 1 spec for a year,

i wasnt going to push any more power from a engine with that mileage on so i built an engine myself, low comp, the engine has now covered 45k on stage 3 , the last 5k on 55lb injectors ive never had to do anything to it ,absolutly faultless not even a sight of an oil leak anywhere ,the engine is as clean as when i put it in.... if you build them correctly, dont skimp on parts they are fantasticly reliable, unreliable yb's are mainly due to them being asked to produce power some of the components arnt made/changed for, shonky work quaility ,and poor maintainence.
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and do you drive yours hard matey??
Old 13-11-2006, 05:43 PM
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does 150 every day

obviously for legal reasons thats 150 bananas per hour....
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at the end of the day thats what i built it for ,i do use every ounce of it....


and it will be on track this year once i sort the gearbox breaking problems!
Old 13-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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Its not all about how u drive them either, regular tlc also helps
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exactly, you cant expect to thrash the hell out of it, and change the oil once every 15k..... if you drive it hard you need to up the service schedule , just like you cant expect a standard head gasket to survive 40psi of boost for long ,but people do, and then when it goes wrong...oh its unreliable.....


i go through mine every weekend making adjustments etc, and its been a fantasticly reliable engine to me.....
Old 13-11-2006, 05:59 PM
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mine did 100K and then I melted a piston, engine had not been re built before that, its been fine since I re built it
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
exactly, you cant expect to thrash the hell out of it, and change the oil once every 15k..... if you drive it hard you need to up the service schedule , just like you cant expect a standard head gasket to survive 40psi of boost for long ,but people do, and then when it goes wrong...oh its unreliable.....


i go through mine every weekend making adjustments etc, and its been a fantasticly reliable engine to me.....

Liar you told me you hadnt opened the bonnet for 2 weeks last night
Old 13-11-2006, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
does 150 every day

obviously for legal reasons thats 150 bananas per hour....

I can vouch for last night's high speed flypast (private road) nice little flame to on liftoff
Old 13-11-2006, 06:05 PM
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i personally would change oil and filer on mine (if i had one ) every 2-3k

people who are saying theres are reliable

what power ??
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Originally Posted by trevCOSS
Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
exactly, you cant expect to thrash the hell out of it, and change the oil once every 15k..... if you drive it hard you need to up the service schedule , just like you cant expect a standard head gasket to survive 40psi of boost for long ,but people do, and then when it goes wrong...oh its unreliable.....


i go through mine every weekend making adjustments etc, and its been a fantasticly reliable engine to me.....

Liar you told me you hadnt opened the bonnet for 2 weeks last night
ok apart from last week i was busy!!

i normally am always checking up on it...honest guv
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
i personally would change oil and filer on mine (if i had one ) every 2-3k

people who are saying theres are reliable

what power ??
dyno'd at 459bhp about 3 weeks ago ,i donr=t belive it though more like 390-400ish maybe
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why dont you beleive thatpower?? was it done at PE???
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http://www.devonrsoc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8

check out the full spec, was dyno'd at ap motors plymouth
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Originally Posted by xr2i-carl
why dont you beleive thatpower?? was it done at PE???
cos its only on a T34.48 459 is well into T38 spec
Old 13-11-2006, 06:44 PM
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im on stage 3...and i have 249k kilometres...(155k miles)...

going fine here...
Old 13-11-2006, 06:57 PM
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for an engine to be strong enough to cope with the stress these engines do they gotta be good,fair enough i fit a new block after 200 miles due to it cracking but then it was running over 30 psi so it was to be expected
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Bought mine in the April, went bang in July that year. I made the usual school boy error and didn't check the oil Probably about 500 miles on the engine after I'd bought it, it had never been rebuilt before. i reckon if I had kept an eye on the oil etc it would have probably lasted few more weeks
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Originally Posted by radiant red
for an engine to be strong enough to cope with the stress these engines do they gotta be good,fair enough i fit a new block after 200 miles due to it cracking but then it was running over 30 psi so it was to be expected
i dont expect mine to crack and its running 33psi
Old 13-11-2006, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
Originally Posted by radiant red
for an engine to be strong enough to cope with the stress these engines do they gotta be good,fair enough i fit a new block after 200 miles due to it cracking but then it was running over 30 psi so it was to be expected
i dont expect mine to crack and its running 33psi
well yeah fair enough mate a crack is about as extreme as it goes,one thing i did notcie was one of the oil sprays were blocked,the one to the cracked bore
maybe this had something to do with it
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bad luck mate.... these things happen ,just get on over it and carry on
Old 13-11-2006, 07:18 PM
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oh i am and have...........a week later the gearbox has gone
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Mines still standard and I've now got problems with the boost being low

I rebuilt my engine last year had just over 100k on the clock and I didn't know its previous history, I discovered the big end bearings had very little life left in them and the piston rings were shot, I also changed all the gaskets/seals and replaced the cam bearings while I was at.
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join the fucked gearbox club...im member number 453
Old 13-11-2006, 07:30 PM
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3 in the rs500
none in the saff yet
got 2 spare ones so think i am sorted !!
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
join the fucked gearbox club...im member number 453
oh nice to meet ya im 788

picking one up tom then rebuilding mine for a spare co it WILL go again
Old 13-11-2006, 08:23 PM
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All cosworth need rebuilt at some time mate !!
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Correction, all ENGINES need a rebuild at some time.

The fact is, these cars are OLD now.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Correction, all ENGINES need a rebuild at some time.

The fact is, these cars are OLD now.
But not much can live with a proper tuned YB
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4 rebuilds in 9 years.


3 off them my own fault
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A1 rally sport built the engine in mine before I bought it in 1998 With 73k on the clock. I bought the car in september 2000 and melted a piston in june 2005 at 99k. I drive my car hard running 400BHP. so I was so impressed with the first A1 engine they built me a nother one.

Well happy. And still got the car now


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Old 14-11-2006, 08:27 AM
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Ours had what seems to be a top end rebuild at 60k. we got it in may on 108k, its now on 113k not really had any problems with the engine apart from silly little things like it having the wrong leads and plugs in and the temp sendor going.

it's standard btw


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