Why is everyone selling there fords for BMW, AUDI etc.
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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
While we're on the subject of German cars Dan......
Did you speak to your man about my mans lowering springs & wheels for my mans Golf
Did you speak to your man about my mans lowering springs & wheels for my mans Golf
My man is getting back to me tomorrow then I can let my other mans man know then via mail.
I new this topic would be a biggie..........
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by Drunken Master
And now E36 M3's have came down heavily in price, lots of people on here seem to be going that way. And constantly bragging about how they've got some prestige motor, when in actuality it's just some 8yr old Beemer worth less than a new fiesta. That anyone that has any money wouldn't be seen dead in.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Drunken Master
And now E36 M3's have came down heavily in price, lots of people on here seem to be going that way. And constantly bragging about how they've got some prestige motor, when in actuality it's just some 8yr old Beemer worth less than a new fiesta. That anyone that has any money wouldn't be seen dead in.
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Here come the beemer bitches!!
Shame about Fords, I totally agree with SECS.
Oh, and BMW Squad stop wanking over the interior and just DRIVE them.
Shame about Fords, I totally agree with SECS.
Oh, and BMW Squad stop wanking over the interior and just DRIVE them.
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Originally Posted by Drunken Master
Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Drunken Master
And now E36 M3's have came down heavily in price, lots of people on here seem to be going that way. And constantly bragging about how they've got some prestige motor, when in actuality it's just some 8yr old Beemer worth less than a new fiesta. That anyone that has any money wouldn't be seen dead in.
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The ironic thing is you make snipes at how this isn't passion ford it's passion bmw blah blah blah, thing is if everyone who had a interest in other cars fucked off passionford would be a very quiet boring place.
The ironic thing is you make snipes at how this isn't passion ford it's passion bmw blah blah blah, thing is if everyone who had a interest in other cars fucked off passionford would be a very quiet boring place.
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Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Drunken Master
Originally Posted by EIL132
Originally Posted by Drunken Master
And now E36 M3's have came down heavily in price, lots of people on here seem to be going that way. And constantly bragging about how they've got some prestige motor, when in actuality it's just some 8yr old Beemer worth less than a new fiesta. That anyone that has any money wouldn't be seen dead in.
And the M3's are fast cars, but I just think some people on here act as if there superior just because they own an older bmw. And when it comes down to it, there only cheap cars anyway....
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Originally Posted by ajaj4747
How can you class them as boring? They are very functional, everything is within reach, well built and made from good quality Blah Blah Drone Yawn ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz z
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Just cos the buttons dont fall out when you press them
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my thoughts on this are the fact ford hasnt carried on making performance cars since the days of the esc cossie etc coz of emissions and coz they are more aiming at family motoring now really. personally i reckon the only reason did all the st's is due to public pressure from people who want performance hatchbacks, plus to keep up with the likes of vauxhall who have their vxr range.
face it, 15years ago u could go into your ford showroom and buy a ford fiesta with 130 odd bhp 1.6 turbo lump, recaro seats and a smart lookin bodykit and bigger bumpers. how far have they advanced in 15yrs? well, fiesta st, 150bhp. i know u cant really look at it like that, but u kinda get what i mean. wheres a mk6 fiesta rs??
reason people still love cossies?? coz 15yrs on, someone else orginally paid the 20grand new price, some1 else has spent 10grand making it 400bhp, then people these days can get that 400bhp for best part of 7grand say for a nice saph.
whys everyone movin on from ford? coz they dont want big maintenance costs, and realise that if they paid 18k for fords latest 'high performance' car, they could get a couple yr old beemer which to be fair is a hell of alot more reliable than a cossie escort, and they all know ford can do much better than the focus st. we always get teased by talk of 4x4 and rs focus etc etc
dont get me wrong, i love my fords, my next one after i sell my rs turbo one day will be a saph 4x4 cossie for sure. but i reckon i wont keep it that long, i will get sick of constantly havin to replace little bits. i will just have one coz ive always wanted one and dont wana think ne day, 'wish i had owned one of them'
face it, 15years ago u could go into your ford showroom and buy a ford fiesta with 130 odd bhp 1.6 turbo lump, recaro seats and a smart lookin bodykit and bigger bumpers. how far have they advanced in 15yrs? well, fiesta st, 150bhp. i know u cant really look at it like that, but u kinda get what i mean. wheres a mk6 fiesta rs??
reason people still love cossies?? coz 15yrs on, someone else orginally paid the 20grand new price, some1 else has spent 10grand making it 400bhp, then people these days can get that 400bhp for best part of 7grand say for a nice saph.
whys everyone movin on from ford? coz they dont want big maintenance costs, and realise that if they paid 18k for fords latest 'high performance' car, they could get a couple yr old beemer which to be fair is a hell of alot more reliable than a cossie escort, and they all know ford can do much better than the focus st. we always get teased by talk of 4x4 and rs focus etc etc
dont get me wrong, i love my fords, my next one after i sell my rs turbo one day will be a saph 4x4 cossie for sure. but i reckon i wont keep it that long, i will get sick of constantly havin to replace little bits. i will just have one coz ive always wanted one and dont wana think ne day, 'wish i had owned one of them'
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Well as a Esc Cos owner and an E46 M3 owner I've gotta say I love both of them pretty much equally.. but they are chalk and cheese.. in strange ways that I will attempt to explain
Its very hard to explain but the M3 is a little but too perfect.. and I love the Escos for its 'characteristic' faults
Image is very important in my job and the M3 is perfect for that and makes me feel quite old and confident its deffinalty a more serious drivers car with awesome pace and I love its sound!
The Esc makes me feel young and youthful I love that fact that I've always wanted one and the retro looks and feel never fails to put a smile on my face
So to sum it up the M3 is like a supermodel and the Escos is a page three girl
Its very hard to explain but the M3 is a little but too perfect.. and I love the Escos for its 'characteristic' faults
Image is very important in my job and the M3 is perfect for that and makes me feel quite old and confident its deffinalty a more serious drivers car with awesome pace and I love its sound!
The Esc makes me feel young and youthful I love that fact that I've always wanted one and the retro looks and feel never fails to put a smile on my face
So to sum it up the M3 is like a supermodel and the Escos is a page three girl
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
How can you say they are bland? Maybe you're just addicted to modifying to the point where even if you did buy something like Paul's CSL, you'd still uprate the brakes, search for a little more power etc etc
As for Sean, it helps when you have the ultimate track Exige sat in the garage for god's sake!
... and if you want to swap and have money coming your way, you're rating your car at 35k.......... and no-one in their right mind is going to give you that much for your car... so you lose on the value too!
Just admit it - you're bored of the cossie scene and are hankering after that Porsche!
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Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
7 year old £13k BMW interior:
Jog the fuck on!
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thirdly, wot about comparing a 15 year old dashboard of a bmw 2 a saff cossie or escos, bmw shit dashes are no different now than they were then (and they still fail first M.O.T on ball joints or rear springs) cus they r just the same as any other pile of shit new car on the road today, only, theres more of em unfortunately
bmw interiors are shit, they look so boring...the escos is a 10 year old car or more...so really you cant compare the two cars.
How can you class them as boring? They are very functional, everything is within reach, well built and made from good quality material. I love it, not like you hard plasticy dash in most cars!
Seconded, and put from another angle, what the hell do you find exciting about a 15yr old ford dashboard?
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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could have had a decent bmw for what i have spent on my escort,just don't want to be classed as a wanker,even though a few would put me there anyway
dont give a fuck though cos at least i dont drive a bmw and that is the pinnacle of wankerism
dont give a fuck though cos at least i dont drive a bmw and that is the pinnacle of wankerism
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Originally Posted by frosty
thirdly, wot about comparing a 15 year old dashboard of a bmw 2 a saff cossie or escos, bmw shit dashes are no different now than they were then (and they still fail first M.O.T on ball joints or rear springs) cus they r just the same as any other pile of shit new car on the road today, only, theres more of em unfortunately
bmw interiors are shit, they look so boring...the escos is a 10 year old car or more...so really you cant compare the two cars.
How can you class them as boring? They are very functional, everything is within reach, well built and made from good quality material. I love it, not like you hard plasticy dash in most cars!
Seconded, and put from another angle, what the hell do you find exciting about a 15yr old ford dashboard?
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Rhys
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Hmmmm, where are my Ford blinkers?...........
BMWs are shit, all Jap cars are shit, I'm the king of the road, and nothing is better!
Fuckin blinkered gimps
BMWs are shit, all Jap cars are shit, I'm the king of the road, and nothing is better!
Fuckin blinkered gimps
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vRS Skoda fantastic car for the money for everyday - no Ford in the same bracket comes close sadly
oh.. and the interior is gross, but who cares, don't look at it, watch where ya going!!
and the only person stressing out about the badge on the back is the BMW driver that you've just pissed off with ya Czech skip pmsl
oh.. and the interior is gross, but who cares, don't look at it, watch where ya going!!
and the only person stressing out about the badge on the back is the BMW driver that you've just pissed off with ya Czech skip pmsl
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Chatter chatter chatter...
VW's good build quality, reliable? Yep, our passat, 2 doors wouldn't open, boot was stiff and the turbo blew on one of our vans with less than 10k on the clock, top notch for a brand new car.
Mercs? Fall to bits.
BMW's.. no slating, I love them.
Fiats, not so bad now, no performance models though.
Blah blah blah..
We could go on forever.
Fact is, even though the cossie/RS is falling apart, won't start and run properly.. when they do, they still draw more attention than your angel eye headlights with your climate control and general buttons that waste fuel and never get used..
But would I choose a 15 year old Escort over a 3 year old Audi RS4.. that was the topic tonight, 3 dilluded individuals would choose the escort.. glad I can actually see through a cosworth badge.
I like all cars, but stop comparing for fuck sake. Escort was built to do a job BACK IN THE DAY!!!!, M3 was built to drive fat balding middle aged men and their twats of sons about in town, not to go hussing around a rally stage popping and banging and generally serving a purpose. M5.. pure sex. The rest? who gives a fuck, bland interiors that are about as sporty as my nan. I know i'd rather drive an Escos around at the weekend if i owned a BMW. I would personally like to hear the rip roaring engine and exhaust over a bland sounding straight six.
Get real! both sides of the coin!!! Each car appeals to each market. You cannot compare a shonky old barge next to a brand new BM. But which makes you smile when you give it the tits? the 330d? or the fire breathing Escos? Fuck sake, BM crew grow up. your cars are good, so why argue with people who own a 15 year old rally car. Completely different league.
Anyway im going to bed, I don't give a fuck what you think, its my opinion so do one..
VW's good build quality, reliable? Yep, our passat, 2 doors wouldn't open, boot was stiff and the turbo blew on one of our vans with less than 10k on the clock, top notch for a brand new car.
Mercs? Fall to bits.
BMW's.. no slating, I love them.
Fiats, not so bad now, no performance models though.
Blah blah blah..
We could go on forever.
Fact is, even though the cossie/RS is falling apart, won't start and run properly.. when they do, they still draw more attention than your angel eye headlights with your climate control and general buttons that waste fuel and never get used..
But would I choose a 15 year old Escort over a 3 year old Audi RS4.. that was the topic tonight, 3 dilluded individuals would choose the escort.. glad I can actually see through a cosworth badge.
I like all cars, but stop comparing for fuck sake. Escort was built to do a job BACK IN THE DAY!!!!, M3 was built to drive fat balding middle aged men and their twats of sons about in town, not to go hussing around a rally stage popping and banging and generally serving a purpose. M5.. pure sex. The rest? who gives a fuck, bland interiors that are about as sporty as my nan. I know i'd rather drive an Escos around at the weekend if i owned a BMW. I would personally like to hear the rip roaring engine and exhaust over a bland sounding straight six.
Get real! both sides of the coin!!! Each car appeals to each market. You cannot compare a shonky old barge next to a brand new BM. But which makes you smile when you give it the tits? the 330d? or the fire breathing Escos? Fuck sake, BM crew grow up. your cars are good, so why argue with people who own a 15 year old rally car. Completely different league.
Anyway im going to bed, I don't give a fuck what you think, its my opinion so do one..
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i had a sorted y plate mk3 scort 2dr est that took me years to finish n loved it, then i fell for the U GOTA BUY NEWER TO KEEP UP CRAP! i bought a 97r plate e36 328ise for £13,000 when it was 3 yrs old, i was chuffed to fcuk 0-60 in 6 secs 190 bhp restricted 145mph! that was until i blew the big ends....warped the head when the head gaskit decided it had enough. also the digi dash climate control did what it wanted after a while 1 min it would blow hot then ice cold off an on like a strobe! plus theres no feelin to driving them, you can go around a corner at 100+ just like your going down a straight road. dont get me wrong i loved it aswell but there not as well built as they used to be. so now im trying to track down another mk3 est as im going back to basics. its cheaper and i like to feel like im actualy driving a car. i like the basic track car feel of fords, i reckon there more of a crack. i wont ever buy a newer car again!!!!
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LOL...
Im only building my S2 for track, I have my Mini and soon to be 2.0 Nova..
Not your BMW's,Not an EVO etc
But im only 22.. I wanna have a bit of fun before I start looking into Family type cars.. Something I hate at the moment!
Maybe once i've grown up, I may sell the cossie S2 and what ever my daily drive is for something a bit 'upmarket'
Thats if im alive....
Im only building my S2 for track, I have my Mini and soon to be 2.0 Nova..
Not your BMW's,Not an EVO etc
But im only 22.. I wanna have a bit of fun before I start looking into Family type cars.. Something I hate at the moment!
Maybe once i've grown up, I may sell the cossie S2 and what ever my daily drive is for something a bit 'upmarket'
Thats if im alive....
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go to a bm forum with the rest of the wankers,i for one dont give a flying fuck about bmw's,they have made a few ok cars in the past but their new cars are fuckin ugly
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
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go to a bm forum with the rest of the wankers,i for one dont give a flying fuck about bmw's,they have made a few ok cars in the past but their new cars are fuckin ugly
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
7 year old £13k BMW interior:
Jog the fuck on!
@ the Ford interior
the BMW interior
Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by ajaj4747
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Get inside a £15k Escort Cossie, and then get inside something like a BMW for similar money.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
Then come back and tell me the Escort has a nice interior.
7 year old £13k BMW interior:
Jog the fuck on!
@ the Ford interior
the BMW interior
Just my 2 cents.
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Originally Posted by allbluepete
go to a bm forum with the rest of the wankers,i for one dont give a flying fuck about bmw's,they have made a few ok cars in the past but their new cars are fuckin ugly
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by allbluepete
go to a bm forum with the rest of the wankers,i for one dont give a flying fuck about bmw's,they have made a few ok cars in the past but their new cars are fuckin ugly
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast
if you own a bm or an evo why are you trying to bore us with how good they are,this is a ford forum ffs,i for one dont care bm drivers are wankers and evo passengers need electronics to drive fast