tubular exhaust manifolds for erst,, where from ???
26-08-2006, 08:47 AM
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tubular exhaust manifolds for erst,, where from ???
got a few mates who are interested in upgrading there manifolds as they got clearence issues with there t34 so was wondering who does em and whats the price
wanna know companys who can supply them rather than ones who used to do em as i know what us members can be like
one of em is to go into a xr2 with a 2.0 zetec so space is somewhat limited
think there 3 of em who are interested so would be worth someones while if they car sort it
cheers
wanna know companys who can supply them rather than ones who used to do em as i know what us members can be like
one of em is to go into a xr2 with a 2.0 zetec so space is somewhat limited
think there 3 of em who are interested so would be worth someones while if they car sort it
cheers
26-08-2006, 08:58 AM
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Just another manifold question while were on the topic, how critical are the tube lengths 
as in is there massive benefits from using equal lengths as how do they test for this and just how accurate are the equal lengths as i have thought about fabricating one myself before being a welder and all that
as in is there massive benefits from using equal lengths as how do they test for this and just how accurate are the equal lengths as i have thought about fabricating one myself before being a welder and all that
26-08-2006, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MOONDUST FRST
Just another manifold question while were on the topic, how critical are the tube lengths as in is there massive benefits from using equal lengths as how do they test for this and just how accurate are the equal lengths as i have thought about fabricating one myself before being a welder and all that
as in is there massive benefits from using equal lengths as how do they test for this and just how accurate are the equal lengths as i have thought about fabricating one myself before being a welder and all that 
26-08-2006, 09:02 AM
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equal lenths is the reason for it i belive
my mates need one as the t34 is too big and on changing gear there gonna fire through the rad
my mates need one as the t34 is too big and on changing gear there gonna fire through the rad
26-08-2006, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
equal lenths is the reason for it i belive
my mates need one as the t34 is too big and on changing gear there gonna fire through the rad
my mates need one as the t34 is too big and on changing gear there gonna fire through the rad
Was just questioning about equal lengths and how much difference it actually makes as i wouldnt have the knowhow of calculating equal length
26-08-2006, 09:41 AM
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well tbh my mates are just looking for relocation more than anything
if you wanna make up a few im sure it would be worth your while as i recon i could have 3 bought off ya providing the price aint mental but in saying that im not saying they only wanna spend 100 quid
have a think about it, i might even get another 2 people to spend the cash making it 5 to me made
if you wanna make up a few im sure it would be worth your while as i recon i could have 3 bought off ya providing the price aint mental but in saying that im not saying they only wanna spend 100 quid
have a think about it, i might even get another 2 people to spend the cash making it 5 to me made
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26-08-2006, 10:05 AM
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Would love to try at the minute mate but im currently fucking around down in Australia and all my welding equipment and tools are back home at the minute so unfortunatelly i cant! Was just interested as i was gonna try this out on my zetec turbo when i took it to the next level of tune but also interested for the future when i do my next project 
26-08-2006, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick
the equal lengths aren't THAT critical - it's more a case of having nicely radiused bends, ad a smooth entry path into the turbo.
come on people , theres a group of people with cash in there pockets and i wanna help the tight fookers spend it
26-08-2006, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DazC
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I just couldn't bring myself to pay that kind of money for a manifold. If only there were a proper level of demand, I could sort something cheaper. But there really isn't enough demand.
26-08-2006, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
im with you christian
if i could get 3 orders would that not help ?
if i could get 3 orders would that not help ?
Trouble is, even if there were 50 peopled that wanted tubular manifolds, half of them want standard location and half want relocation, so there's no pleasing everyone!
26-08-2006, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by DazC
Primary Designs. Ł1.4k in Inconel.
I just couldn't bring myself to pay that kind of money for a manifold. If only there were a proper level of demand, I could sort something cheaper. But there really isn't enough demand.
To be fair, inconel isn't the cheapest material to make one out of, but that only knocks off about Ł450!!
26-08-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by DazC
Primary Designs. Ł1.4k in Inconel.
I just couldn't bring myself to pay that kind of money for a manifold. If only there were a proper level of demand, I could sort something cheaper. But there really isn't enough demand.
To be fair, inconel isn't the cheapest material to make one out of, but that only knocks off about Ł450!!
Also, I (and no doubt others) aren't really up for relocating the turbo. That has its other associated problems (Air filter limitation, Clutch/Brake component over-heating, exhaust fabrication etc etc).
I personally am most tempted by Hansens manifold at the moment and if I could buy one and just bolt it on, job done, then I may very well be tempted. Even if it needed slight fettling, I don't mind that.
26-08-2006, 04:28 PM
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What about one of these? Might bring the turbo in closer? (and potentially melt the crank sensor )
You can have the turbo above or below the manifold... I believe this is what Austen uses on his Westfield, could be wrong though!
)You can have the turbo above or below the manifold... I believe this is what Austen uses on his Westfield, could be wrong though!
27-08-2006, 08:26 AM
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Speak to Hansen or Ian Howell. I should imagine if you wanted a non-coated custom manifold it would be around Ł4-500, coated up to Ł600.
Unless you are looking at relocation for a specific reason it's generally easier (and cheaper!) to move your rad/intercooler further forward...there's always a way. If you relocate the turbo there's always other issues i.e. boiling brake fluid!
Speak to them though if it were me
Dave
Unless you are looking at relocation for a specific reason it's generally easier (and cheaper!) to move your rad/intercooler further forward...there's always a way. If you relocate the turbo there's always other issues i.e. boiling brake fluid!
Speak to them though if it were me
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27-08-2006, 07:51 PM
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these are the ones i make for jamsport first the mods :
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
27-08-2006, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hansenturbo
these are the ones i make for jamsport first the mods :
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
2. Altering the Actuator mount is no worries.
3. Ditto.
4. I already have altered intake pipework, which is not in the way.
Sounds good!! I just need to raise the money now!!
27-08-2006, 10:04 PM
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Incidentally, is there anyone that has been running one of these manifolds for a while? How are they standing the test of time regarding cracking? That's not a dig, I know that tubular manifolds are prone to it, just wondered how yours are doing? 
27-08-2006, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hansenturbo
these are the ones i make for jamsport first the mods :
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
28-08-2006, 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Incidentally, is there anyone that has been running one of these manifolds for a while? How are they standing the test of time regarding cracking? That's not a dig, I know that tubular manifolds are prone to it, just wondered how yours are doing?
heres a photo of it while its being mapped 2+bar and 7.2k
28-08-2006, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Hansenturbo
these are the ones i make for jamsport first the mods :
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
1 you need to get a 2wd exhaust house and modified your down pipe
to take the 2wd exhaust house
2 then you need to get wategate mounting modified
3 you also need cut down the oil return pipe
4 and as there no room for the crossover pipe you also need to modified the piping
28-08-2006, 11:53 AM
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What about one of these? Might bring the turbo in closer? (and potentially melt the crank sensor )
You can have the turbo above or below the manifold... I believe this is what Austen uses on his Westfield, could be wrong though!
)You can have the turbo above or below the manifold... I believe this is what Austen uses on his Westfield, could be wrong though!
Works well with the external gate setup
Its similar in design to a cosworth 4wd manifold so should cope with over 400bhp esp with the external gate on there now.
Covered about 5000 miles now with no problems at all
Quality peice of kit
It is for sale however as I'm going to a tubular and a bigger turbo to crack the 500 mark
29-08-2006, 02:05 PM
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Christian and Beccy the manifold is made to sit close to standart so your downpipe should be fine as for cracking i have had no problems yet and as you can see stu is giving hes a hard time
GARETH T i got my idea from a us made manifold for a honda turbo engine but i know it looks like a focus rs one m8
Brookesy it is m8
as for cracking i have had no problems yet and as you can see stu is giving hes a hard time GARETH T i got my idea from a us made manifold for a honda turbo engine but i know it looks like a focus rs one m8
Brookesy it is m8
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