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Old 27-07-2006 | 01:33 PM
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Heard an almight bang...
...walked outside, to find Police everywhere running around like headless chickens. And here's the result.

They were driving way to fast for the road conditions, were 50 yards beyond a 90 degree right hander and 10 yards past a zebra crossing by the shops. Not to mention the primary school 100 yards further up the road.

How nobody was killed was sheer luck.

1. 4x4 hit the side of the Mondeo, pushing it 15 yards down the road sideways, though a concrete bollard and a garden wall.




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bet none of them see the inside of a courtroom for that
Old 27-07-2006 | 01:42 PM
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bet there a bit
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That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.

In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
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I'm going to use my police powers of deduction - "They were obviously racing" .
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Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.
driving down a little road at "high speed" is something the police themselves frown upon

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In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
true as that may be, kililng someone in the process isn't part of the deal
Old 27-07-2006 | 03:52 PM
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Yeah yeah yeah we could all do it better they're a bunch of muppets etc...
Old 27-07-2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.
driving down a little road at "high speed" is something the police themselves frown upon

Originally Posted by MWF
In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
true as that may be, kililng someone in the process isn't part of the deal
that's what i was thinking but couldnt be arsed to type it
Old 27-07-2006 | 03:56 PM
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Saw that last night, as i was on me way to Southend. It was on the Eastwood Road goind to Kent elms corner.

The road was shut and i thought there must have been a death because of the amount of Police...............now i know.........
Old 27-07-2006 | 04:11 PM
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Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.
True but half of what they have learnt gose out the window as soon as they get in the car on there own alot of them think they a damon hill when they first got the bmw's round here they had them on the road for about 2 weeks and put one into a shop window
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I'm going to use my police powers of deduction - "They were obviously racing" .
TRUE
Old 27-07-2006 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.

In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
Agreed.

Accidents happen.


No biggie in my eyes.
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Had another in Bexleyheath a few weeks back hit a car and pushed it into a wall on the corner of Avenue road.
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Ahh I wondered why it was closed off last night too! - that is litterally 2 or 3 minutes drive away from where I live (in fact the school mentioned I used to go to). On my way home from work yesterday I saw they had blocked the road of from Kent Elms corner as I was going to go that way but had to take Snakes Lane instead.

Not a great fan of the old bill but depsite what the photos look like that road is actually quite wide, pretty straight (until you get to the school area) and it was around 6:30ish so not likely to be too many school kids around because of the school.

What forum did was that orignally posted on?
Old 27-07-2006 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
Couldn't agree more - soon be bleating if it was someone off here on the end of a 999 call and the law weren't there eh ?
Old 27-07-2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.

In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
Agreed.

Accidents happen.


No biggie in my eyes.
True but as the police once told me
if you drive within your limits and no faster than the road conditions allow you will never have an accident that is your own fault....
What happened here is carleless driving
Old 27-07-2006 | 05:50 PM
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Thats on the eastwood road,ive seen it all over the papers today
Old 27-07-2006 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.

In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
Agreed.

Accidents happen.


No biggie in my eyes.
Agreed

Have to admit though (seeing as nobody was hurt) it's quite funny to see they get it wrong as well. Goes to show no matter what training and how good you are things can and do go wrong
Old 27-07-2006 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MWF
Yeah yeah yeah we could all do it better they're a bunch of muppets etc...
not saying that at all
i'm sure that if it was a member of my family needing the assistance of the emergency services i'd want them to be rushing to the scene too
but it seems that the police think they are above the law when it comes to driving dangerously in built up areas

like this one



there is no way he could have got himself into that position as he would have had to have been dropped into the front garden to end up like that as he didn't demolish the wall at easither end and it's only just long enough for thepolice car
and not to mention the fact that the road is straight
i know that the incidents the police are involved in only represent a tiny majority of the actual chases they are involved in, but they always seem to end up more bent that the other guy who they invariably fail to catch because they've twated their motor on the way to join in the chase
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they should get done for careless driving - CD10 on your licence copper
Old 27-07-2006 | 07:38 PM
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How can anyone say it was careless driving blah blah blah. theres no info on there saying what happened. For all everyone knows the mondeo could have turned late and the 4 x 4's brakes failed....

Cops cant do a thing right in some peoples eyes.
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well then they should get charged with dangerous driving then as that is what they tried with me.

Throw the fookin book at em, they could have very easily killed someone.

I bet if i found a nive empty car park and started doing donuts I would fooked pretty quickly by the cops.
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How can anyone say it was careless driving blah blah blah. theres no info on there saying what happened. For all everyone knows the mondeo could have turned late and the 4 x 4's brakes failed....

Cops cant do a thing right in some peoples eyes.
Thats right cos they are babylon where i come from they are the enemy, its nice to see them fuck things up every so often, that way people can see they have not got a sugar candy coating and are not saints, fair points above but i bet a pound to a penny this crash was caused by excessive speed, learn to control the hardware next time pig crew

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Originally Posted by Chris Honeywell
Originally Posted by COMEDY DAN
Originally Posted by MWF
That is unfortunate really. Both are traffic cars so the drivers should be highly trained for high speed driving.

In all fairness they are trying to attend to crimes and aren't superhuman, we'd all want to rushing to help us and our loved ones.
Agreed.

Accidents happen.


No biggie in my eyes.
True but as the police once told me
if you drive within your limits and no faster than the road conditions allow you will never have an accident that is your own fault....
What happened here is carleless driving





I agree. I was member of the IAM (institute of advanced motorists) not so long ago because my work put me on it. ALL police have to also undertake a test which is the same and if you look at their website it reads like this.


Advanced drivers use a way of driving called "The System" which is derived from the Police "Roadcraft" system of car control. The System of Car Control is a way of driving that allows the driver to approach all situations and negotiate all hazards in a methodical and flexible way that leaves nothing to luck or chance, therefore it will be safe. The driver throughout their guidance will be shown and guided using the System of Car Control which the IAM has used successfully since 1956. Using this system allows the them to use all their skills to deal with any environment or situation, in enough time to decide on the best position, speed and gear of the vehicle to negotiate hazards safely.



here is the link http://www.iam.org.uk/aboutus/advanc...pectations.htm
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Right, I'll take the bait.

1: As far as I am aware no one off here knows how the collsion happened.

2: You may think me a liar but this collision will be investigated to a higher degree than a similar one involving joe public.

3: Traffic police are trained to a higher degree than the IAM, despite what the IAM may tell you. They want you to believe its the same course cos it sounds good to some people and helps em sell. My own driver training took 8 weeks in total.

OK, I'm done.
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arch, are you plod by any chance
yes he is mate

arch - is your car insurance cheaper as a result of your police driving job and the training received?
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1. 4x4 hit the side of the Mondeo, pushing it 15 yards down the road sideways, though a concrete bollard and a garden wall.
so, the POLICE 4x4 hit the POLICE mondeo did it?
so, someone with a bit of fizics can tell us how much momentum the POLICE 4x4 wuld need to push the POLICE mondeo 15 yards (which is 45 in old money) AND through the wall AFTER going through the concrete bollard

once we get the fizics out of the way we can see how fast the POLICE 4x4 was going to have caused the impact

then we can get the fizics bods to work out how fast it must have been going if it turns out that the POLICE monedo was also moving at the time of the impact

for every action, there must be an equal and oppositte reaction, so if both vehicles are moving at the same speed and both hit each other headon, they will still be going backwards at some point after the initial impact

come on then peeps, lets work it out in a court of pf

not that i'm saying any of the drivers are at fault, it might have been mechanical failuer to blame
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I do not know the area of the collision, but are there any motorways nearby?

As for insurance the answer is a big fat NO, I am with elephant. Some companies do offer a discount of around 5% though.
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Originally Posted by arch
Right, I'll take the bait.

1: As far as I am aware no one off here knows how the collsion happened.

2: You may think me a liar but this collision will be investigated to a higher degree than a similar one involving joe public.

3: Traffic police are trained to a higher degree than the IAM, despite what the IAM may tell you. They want you to believe its the same course cos it sounds good to some people and helps em sell. My own driver training took 8 weeks in total.

OK, I'm done.
So if i turn in the middle of the road and someone hit me because there going to fast there could get a CD10 as they were going to fast for the road/ weather condions ect .
And there for should have seen the Hazzard or POSABLE HAZZARDS AHEAD, IE Side Roads Parked cars ect ect

So imo the officers in the 4x4 should have given a bigger gap if following the mondeo or taken in that there was a side road that a car could be coming out of

This whot i got told on my SPEED AWARNESS course
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I do not know the area of the collision, but are there any motorways nearby?

As for insurance the answer is a big fat NO, I am with elephant. Some companies do offer a discount of around 5% though.
The A127 is the Main road in and out i belve that leads in/out to the M25
But even so if they were going to the sceen nither made it due to the 4x4 going to fast and not taking in the POSABILE HAZZARDS
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I only asked about motorways as the 4x4 looks like a motorway patrol car.

I am not defending poor driving if that caused the collision.
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How can people say the IAM course is the same as the police one when joe public isnt taught to drive at high speeds. It doesnt teach you to drive as fast as it's safe to do so. It teaches you to be more aware, how to read a road and all that bollocks, but all WITHIN the speed limits.
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As for insurance the answer is a big fat NO, I am with elephant. Some companies do offer a discount of around 5% though.
Thought you could get a good deal through the Police Federation?
I do the dogshit Astra through Narpo with my dad (ex plod) as a named driver for £130 a year
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Perhaps they were "familiarising themseves with the vehicles"

You could put a monkey on an 8 week training course but it still would not know how to drive

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