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Old 15-07-2006, 06:17 PM
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Default Does a hydraulic handbrake pass an MOT?

As above.

Or do i need a friendly tester?

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Old 15-07-2006, 06:23 PM
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dont think so, unless you have pound notes
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no it wont find a friendly tester
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A hydraulic hand brake will pass an MOT just fine.

If you mean a fly off handbrake then the answer is no. You can have a hydraulic handbrake and retain the ratcheting mechanism.

Then if you want to use it as a fly off, push the button in, drill a hole through the handbrake and button and fix with a bolt.

Which you can easily remove next MOT time
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
A hydraulic hand brake will pass an MOT just fine.

If you mean a fly off handbrake then the answer is no. You can have a hydraulic handbrake and retain the ratcheting mechanism.

Then if you want to use it as a fly off, push the button in, drill a hole through the handbrake and button and fix with a bolt.

Which you can easily remove next MOT time
that is soooooooooooo far over my head i have no idea what you mean

all i know is i have a hydraulic handbrake and i need an MOT next month
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Does your handbrake lever still click and lock when you pull it up or does it drop again? i.e. do you use it when you park the car or is it for handbrake turns only?

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http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_310.htm
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Thats very open to interpretation.

All I can say is, my car has never failed for it.
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Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable on vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968.
Hydraulic brakes with auxillary cable are however accepted.

Hydraulic h/b's that even click and lock will still fail at any decent MOT station. They all lose pressure as the fluid cools and your car merrily rolls off down the hill. I have seen this happen SOOOOO many times to rally cars in over night parc ferme its comical - until one hits your car

Find a friendly MOT station
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Originally Posted by vroomtshh
Does your handbrake lever still click and lock when you pull it up or does it drop again? i.e. do you use it when you park the car or is it for handbrake turns only?
no it doesnt click mate. I certainly dont do handbrake turns either

I always leave the car in gear because the handbrake is useless. Does it lose pressure or something? Its fine while driving about and at junctions etc.
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Only cars registered before 1972 or something like that can pass with one anything newer ie the cossie will fail.

Best to get a friendly mot tester.
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable on vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968.
Hydraulic brakes with auxillary cable are however accepted.

Hydraulic h/b's that even click and lock will still fail at any decent MOT station. They all lose pressure as the fluid cools and your car merrily rolls off down the hill. I have seen this happen SOOOOO many times to rally cars in over night parc ferme its comical - until one hits your car

Find a friendly MOT station
spot-on reply from Tony as always.
According to the MOT rules it will not be acceptable, but having a mechanical cable which "looks" like it operates the brake at the same time will be
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Originally Posted by Lambchop

I always leave the car in gear because the handbrake is useless. etc.
Why would you want to downgrade your handbrake from standard then!?
What benefits does this setup give you over standard?
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exactly what i was going to ask!?

it sounds useless mate, and you dont use it for what they were designed for (rally stages!) so why have it?
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Hydraulic handbrakes work better than std cable.

They will lock the rear wheels if you pull it on the move. You have to pull a std one fucking hard to get the wheels to lock.

RST drums are different as they are a little easier to lock.

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Originally Posted by Lambchop
no it doesnt click mate. I certainly dont do handbrake turns either
Lambchop said he doesnt handbrake turn - so why would he want to lock the rear brakes whilst moving?
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Exactly, why hell you got it if it isnt used for the ONLY reason to have one?
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... because the car runs AP 4 pots on the rear, and they don't have a built in handbrake mechanism.
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handbrakes aren't just for doing tesco displays.

if you wanna get the car sideways before a corner you can use it then, or he might have bought the car with it already fitted.

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Originally Posted by Dan@Rapid-Ford
if you wanna get the car sideways before a corner you can use it then
thats what I mean, if he not using it for handbrakes or initiating the drift, then seems pointless as he said he dont use it to hold the car still either as its useless for that.
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Hydraulic parking brakes as a sole means of operation are not acceptable on vehicles first used on or after 1 January 1968.
Hydraulic brakes with auxillary cable are however accepted.

Hydraulic h/b's that even click and lock will still fail at any decent MOT station. They all lose pressure as the fluid cools and your car merrily rolls off down the hill. I have seen this happen SOOOOO many times to rally cars in over night parc ferme its comical - until one hits your car

Find a friendly MOT station

That is indeed the totally correct information

Depending on the tester it will probably pass, but its acutally a very bad idea to be purely hydraulic becuase you have to remember to leave it in gear if you dont want it to roll away when you have had the fluid warm before you parked up.

I used to get my secretary pop into my office when i took my nova in and say "umm, excuse me sir, your funny little car has rolled across the carpark again and this time it is only 2 feet from the MD's ferrari, i think it might be best if you move it"


Ive been thinking about putting a spring loading mechanism on the actual level itself that pushes onto the master cylinder, so that when it cools the spring takes up the slack.
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
... because the car runs AP 4 pots on the rear, and they don't have a built in handbrake mechanism.
thanks Rich!

So y'all can chill out now because the fucker was on the car before it was bought! I understand now you can get a seperate small ap caliper for this situation but i dont think it was an option when this was fitted!


I said above it doesnt click when i lift the brake but i tested last night to find it actually does
Shows how much the car is driven!!


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