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Old 10-07-2006, 12:11 PM
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Default MOT's with engine swops... this cant be right, can it?

The Ka had its MOT this morning, and the log book says the 1600 Escort Turbo lump thats in the Car.

The bloke in the testing station would not put the car through the emissions test based on the engine, but based it on the car instead... so it went on a 2002 1.3 instead of a 1989 1.6 rs - not a chance!!

Spoke to a friend who works in another garage and he asked the MOT boys there to check, and it should have gone on the engine, not the car, and they have it in writing. How can places be doing MOT's wrong these days!

Old 10-07-2006, 12:14 PM
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I thought you got tested on the model of the car and not the engine.

Mine is like that
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the emissions should have gone on the year of engine not year of car, there is a section in the testers manual that covers this for modified cars
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Ive always thought emission were based on the engine and not the car its in. Ka running well now mate?
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all you need is a letter off an engineer (engineer report)saying its obvoiusly been fitted right and that its an earlier engine in the car and they have got to test it on the engine´s year not car!
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Originally Posted by Jonzy
Ive always thought emission were based on the engine and not the car its in. Ka running well now mate?
Sweet as Just wanna go get it setup for propper boost, which i cant go doing without an MOT
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Mine is 3 years old then so am fucked LOL.....
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bassed on the car not the engine, well, mines bassed on the 89 sierra and not the 93 granada lump in it, all engine numbers correct on the log book etc
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
hope you got the number sorted mate? dont take it back to the same place thats prolly why they didnt, double hit now aint it no free retest unless it doesnt leave the garage?
Engine number is right cos i spoke to the boy i bought it off recently.

Not going back to the same place, only time im going back there is when i get a copy of the testers manual to get my 40 quid back. Scamming c**ts!!

Just pissed off cos i wanna be out in the car roasting people
Old 10-07-2006, 12:32 PM
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its done on whatever is older..... car or engine.....
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ts done on whatever is older..... car or engine.....
yup
Old 10-07-2006, 12:54 PM
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You CAN still get a free-retest within 14 days….its up to the garage [although they do still have to do a full check which takes an hour]

I got mine done at Well-Lane last weekend Ł25 inc a free re-test the following weekend!
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As far as im aware, they should apply the rules to either the year of the car or the year of the engine depending on which are the most leniant.


So if its a 1920's car with a 1990 engine it should be 1920's rules and if its a 1990's car with a 1920's engine it should be 1920's rules as well.
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
kool matey im that boy sure you,ll be out roastin soon mate what power you takeing it to?
1. i thought you said you were offline recently
2. why the different user name?
3. ... and thank you very much for the info last week
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Originally Posted by scruffythefirst
ts done on whatever is older..... car or engine.....
yup
indeed it is. my zetec will be tested as per 1980 regs as that's the age of the escort
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a mate had his mk6 escort tested the other week which has a erst lump in and all the tester did, iirc put the reg in and POSSIBLY the chassis number into some dvla database and it came back as it needed a "non-cat" test. because he has informed the dvla properly about the swop
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Originally Posted by Rob84
a mate had his mk6 escort tested the other week which has a erst lump in and all the tester did, iirc put the reg in and POSSIBLY the chassis number into some dvla database and it came back as it needed a "non-cat" test. because he has informed the dvla properly about the swop
Its all sorted with the DVLA as a 1600. The MOT place kept asking me if it had a cat.... dont be silly, Escorts never did.... i asked over and over if it should be going on the engine not the car, but they wouldnt have any of it.
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Apparently its section 7.3 of the MOT manual that says about cars with different engines. The example it gives is if a 1995 car is fitted with a 1991 engine, the emissions test should be for 1991. Same as if a 1991 car is fitted with a 1995 engine, it still goes on 1991... so which ever is oldest like many of you have said.

If they kick up a fuss, i need to ask for a VT17 form which is an MOT apeal form to get them in trouble with the ministry, and if they tell me they dont have any... thats bull as well as they only need to print them off the computer.

Gonna go down there in the morning and ah....... pop a cap in their ass
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My engine swapped car just passed the MOT today.

One of stu's chips for the YB, sat there at idle at 14.6:1 AFR, CO of almost bang on 0.5
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the official line from an MOT tester is that when a modified vehicle (ie, different engine) then the testing for emissions will be based on whichever is older - If the car is from 2001 and the engine from 1991, then the emission test is for that of a 1991 vehicle. If the engine is from 2000 and the car from 1991, then the test for emissions goes on the age of the car.


In a nutshell, whichever is oldest is used for basing the emissions test on
Old 10-07-2006, 05:02 PM
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so im gessing in my j reg frst with me putting a zetec turbo lump in then it will go thought as a j reg and ther for will not need a cat as the engine is from 2000 focus with a cat
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that is correct
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