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Old 07-07-2006, 12:17 PM
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Default 4x4 Running gear and strength??

Thinking of having my tunnel when finished big enough for 4x4 transmission, just in case I decide to go 4x4 instead of 2wd..


whats the 4x4 ( MT75 is it? ) 'box like for stage 3 set up? whats its weaks points?


I know that Davecos4x4 just done a 3rd gear, but would this just be misuse ( ) or just and old box not liking the power?


Cheers Radders
Old 07-07-2006, 12:18 PM
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Yours will be ALOT lighter so i would say it would take a bit more

I bet with the weight it would be ok for 360bhp
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Stage 3 is reaching its limits really. Because your car will be lighter it WILL help.
Old 07-07-2006, 12:28 PM
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Blew 3rd gear on my 3 door 4x4 box just overtaking in 3rd so not only 'mis-use' will find their weakness!
Old 07-07-2006, 12:30 PM
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i done 3rd gear just by changing slowly abouy 30mph also done my main shaft at the time

i used to go through gearboxes almost every 2 months and was only running stage 3

wish i spent the money on a quaife or sumthing

the transmission is just too weak

but as said as your car will be lighter it could handle a bit more aslong as its treated nice
Old 07-07-2006, 12:31 PM
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How much lighter will it be though?? with all that fabrication work,and the obvious extra weight of the engine/transmission, i bet there wouldn't be much in it?

i'd stick to 2wd with a proper suspension setup for maximum grip
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
How much lighter will it be though?? with all that fabrication work,and the obvious extra weight of the engine/transmission, i bet there wouldn't be much in it?

i'd stick to 2wd with a proper suspension setup for maximum grip

I am going 2wd, this is just incase I go 4x4 , the tunnel will be prepped for 4x4, But i'd just like to know how strong they are

The cars weight , I havent a clue....

Its having an M3 rear diff, BMW Rear beam mated to cage, 20+ point weld in cage, poly windows, all metal panels still, Under bars, and all the interior panels are lightened with no dash, bar a pod for the gauges..

Plus a Cossie lump and a T5 box

Suspension, Is sorted too, Leaving it all to Danny to sort out, I'll let him choose, and I spend
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Cheers Martin

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Whats it all going in? A bmw of some sort i take it??
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Series 2 Spadge
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Series 2 Spadge , Danny B is doing all the fab work
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Originally Posted by Pennywise
Series 2 Spadge , Danny B is doing all the fab work
Cool but please don't get me started on those mongrels
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the way the engine delivers the power makes a difference as well...

A T4 is alot kinder to a gerabox than a T34 at similar power levels
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Lee, I didnt know that, But im going for a stage 3 set-up only, I dont need masses of power, So will be on a T34 .48, Would a 48. and 63. make much difference?


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Originally Posted by Pennywise
Series 2 Spadge , Danny B is doing all the fab work
Cool but please don't get me started on those mongrels




And while your hear.. What power was your Gartrac ( R.I.P )
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Originally Posted by Pennywise
Lee, I didnt know that, But im going for a stage 3 set-up only, I dont need masses of power, So will be on a T34 .48, Would a 48. and 63. make much difference?


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Series 2 Spadge , Danny B is doing all the fab work
Cool but please don't get me started on those mongrels




And while your hear.. What power was your Gartrac ( R.I.P )
Too much

No real paper power figures mate but was on greys with ported head, bd14's , MD240R roller bearing turbo etc......so i would say anywhere between 400-450hp!
Quick engine pic in case your interested

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I was going to say, I remember it being on a MD240R + Greys


Saw it down Ace Cafe before you got it, and fuck me it went


cheers for the pic
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Radders - 4x4 gearboxes are very weak. I've gone through a couple and i'm only running about 330-340. Best one i've had last is my Bernie box..I can see your point about the tunnel. For the extra few quid for having it wider might be alright if u decided to change at a later date!

Just transmission costs quite a few quid to upgrade on a 4x4 when upgrading power..
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Default Re: 4x4 Running gear and strength??

Originally Posted by Pennywise
Thinking of having my tunnel when finished big enough for 4x4 transmission, just in case I decide to go 4x4 instead of 2wd..


whats the 4x4 ( MT75 is it? ) 'box like for stage 3 set up? whats its weaks points?


I know that Davecos4x4 just done a 3rd gear, but would this just be misuse ( ) or just and old box not liking the power?


Cheers Radders


not misuse and it was a new box,still got the stiker on it in the pick.

only had one otheer box go on me,that too again in 3rd, normal driving.
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What are you on! Dont be a gay boy! Keep it 2wd. Much more fun and less breakage.
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It is going 2wd Mike , Just 4x4 might be an option later on for a bit more fun at lights


Cheers Smit


And Dave...
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Shut it you


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when you have a go you will understand
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