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thinking the world has gone a bit further since air injectors and just wondered if anybody tried something else on a yb engine(of corse they have)
i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think stu uses a hks controllers
has anybody tried the blitz sbc?
give me your oppinions on whats best
ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think stu uses a hks controllers
has anybody tried the blitz sbc?
give me your oppinions on whats best
ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
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We can't really supply them, well not for sensible money anyway. Ebay seems to be the best bet, in all honesty.
However, we charge £100 to fit a Boost Controller. Ideally the car wants a Rolling-road tune to set it up. Alot of the features are subject to messing around with them. My I-Color has been in for months now and I still haven't learnt all about it!
However, we charge £100 to fit a Boost Controller. Ideally the car wants a Rolling-road tune to set it up. Alot of the features are subject to messing around with them. My I-Color has been in for months now and I still haven't learnt all about it!
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i've used a apexi boost controller,
1. fitted in my cossie,
2. fitted in a pulser.
Tuners told me it was hard to use, but i found it quite easy once i'd played with it for a while.
Compared to my Air inj, Boost comtrollers are quicker to setup, and can do different boost for different gears, Which my Air inj and S8 cant do..
Also seen Greddy ones, and they are ment to be the cheapest/ and easest to set up, but very basic compared to the Apexi or Turbo smart..
1. fitted in my cossie,
2. fitted in a pulser.
Tuners told me it was hard to use, but i found it quite easy once i'd played with it for a while.
Compared to my Air inj, Boost comtrollers are quicker to setup, and can do different boost for different gears, Which my Air inj and S8 cant do..
Also seen Greddy ones, and they are ment to be the cheapest/ and easest to set up, but very basic compared to the Apexi or Turbo smart..
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Re: boost controllers
Originally Posted by capri-rs
thinking the world has gone a bit further since air injectors and just wondered if anybody tried something else on a yb engine(of corse they have)
i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think Stu uses a hks controllers
has anybody tried the blitz sbc?
give me your oppinions on whats best
ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think Stu uses a hks controllers
has anybody tried the blitz sbc?
give me your oppinions on whats best
ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
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Re: boost controllers
Originally Posted by madevelopments
I now use the SM4 to control the boost so closed loop for me
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i like closed loop idea myself.let the engine management sort the boost
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Originally Posted by capri-rs
Originally Posted by madevelopments
I now use the SM4 to control the boost so closed loop for me
Mark
i like closed loop idea myself.let the engine management sort the boost
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Do u really have to have it setup by a pro/tuner? as i got a GGR chip in mine (EECIV SM EscCos) and no idea if i just plpug it in i will benefit it
Or do i just leave it the fook alone?
Or do i just leave it the fook alone?
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
http://www.krbtrading.no/ will have the valve.
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how much it does it cost?
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
http://www.krbtrading.no/ will have the valve.
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how much it does it cost?
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kev.H
lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune
could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !
without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kev.H
lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune
could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !
without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
Standard boost control solenoid just doesn't cope with raised boost.
95% throttle is fine but as soon as you bury it and I hit 1.5-1.6 bar it just dumps the boost then builds again then dumps etc etc.
A new boost solenoid off Ford cures it for a while but then it returns.
I have the MSD chip, decat and K&N Gen II.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
We can't really supply them, well not for sensible money anyway. Ebay seems to be the best bet, in all honesty.
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kev.H
lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune
could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !
without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
Standard boost control solenoid just doesn't cope with raised boost.
95% throttle is fine but as soon as you bury it and I hit 1.5-1.6 bar it just dumps the boost then builds again then dumps etc etc.
A new boost solenoid off Ford cures it for a while but then it returns.
I have the MSD chip, decat and K&N Gen II.
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Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
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I'm perfectly happy with my GReddy Profec-B Spec II. Itt wont do rev/gear based boost, but it controlls boost accurately and without spike. Setup is easy once you understand how it works and what everything means (the manual is very good, but it still need some thinking through)
So I'm happy - it does everything I need it to do, and is tiny so easily hidden. The actuator is well made and the loom is very good quality.
So I'm happy - it does everything I need it to do, and is tiny so easily hidden. The actuator is well made and the loom is very good quality.
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RP Labs may be able to include closed loop boost control into a L8 ecu. the problem is lack of memory space. if you were prepared to forego closed loop fuelling, then it could easily be done.
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is the memory problem with the L8 the amount of physical memory that you can get in or is it the limit of the processor that cant address memory greater than xxx value even if it did exist..?
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Dave Henshall whoosh - straight over my head i'm afraid mate.
if i had to guess, i would probably say the latter
maybe stu can tell you, or ask nikola @ rp lab
if i had to guess, i would probably say the latter
maybe stu can tell you, or ask nikola @ rp lab
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