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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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thinking the world has gone a bit further since air injectors and just wondered if anybody tried something else on a yb engine(of corse they have)

i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think stu uses a hks controllers

has anybody tried the blitz sbc?

give me your oppinions on whats best

ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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I do use the BLITZ SBC .
Perfect boostcontroller! I did use it also in mine previeus car.





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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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I really want one though ive heard there so hard to set up ???
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Here's mine......



Hard to set up, but worth it IMO!!
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Christain, that looks the dogs mate
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Hard to set up, but worth it IMO!!
Bastid thats the one i want!

How much to suplly, fit and setup
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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We can't really supply them, well not for sensible money anyway. Ebay seems to be the best bet, in all honesty.

However, we charge £100 to fit a Boost Controller. Ideally the car wants a Rolling-road tune to set it up. Alot of the features are subject to messing around with them. My I-Color has been in for months now and I still haven't learnt all about it!
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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Sounds reasonable i would galdly pay that with a rr thrown in though if you havent got to grips with it i doubt i fooking will!
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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i've used a apexi boost controller,

1. fitted in my cossie,
2. fitted in a pulser.


Tuners told me it was hard to use, but i found it quite easy once i'd played with it for a while.

Compared to my Air inj, Boost comtrollers are quicker to setup, and can do different boost for different gears, Which my Air inj and S8 cant do..

Also seen Greddy ones, and they are ment to be the cheapest/ and easest to set up, but very basic compared to the Apexi or Turbo smart..
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:36 PM
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lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by capri-rs
thinking the world has gone a bit further since air injectors and just wondered if anybody tried something else on a yb engine(of corse they have)

i know MADrod uses a turbosmart thingie and think Stu uses a hks controllers

has anybody tried the blitz sbc?

give me your oppinions on whats best

ps dont need anything F&F stuff. has to work!
I now use the SM4 to control the boost so closed loop for me

Mark
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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I now use the SM4 to control the boost so closed loop for me

Mark
are u using air injectors or are u using an electric valve job like turbosmart,hks etc etc.?

i like closed loop idea myself.let the engine management sort the boost
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:52 PM
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My Turbosmart controller is in the for Sale section .
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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I now use the SM4 to control the boost so closed loop for me

Mark
are u using air injectors or are u using an electric valve job like turbosmart,hks etc etc.?

i like closed loop idea myself.let the engine management sort the boost
using the Autronic valve but you can use just about anything.

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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where can i get a valve that i can use?could probably buy one from u of corse??
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
Having to use? Why?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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http://www.krbtrading.no/ will have the valve.

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:06 PM
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Do u really have to have it setup by a pro/tuner? as i got a GGR chip in mine (EECIV SM EscCos) and no idea if i just plpug it in i will benefit it

Or do i just leave it the fook alone?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by madevelopments
http://www.krbtrading.no/ will have the valve.

Mark
i know he is the dealer for norway but dont want to buy from him

how much it does it cost?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by capri-rs
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http://www.krbtrading.no/ will have the valve.

Mark
i know he is the dealer for norway but dont want to buy from him

how much it does it cost?
They may have a sub dealer if not talk to Autronic about it.

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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can talk to MRM in sweden no problem.

cheers
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by Kev.H
lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
Having to use? Why?
from what I can understand lots of problems with the standard ecu and solenoid not coping with 1.2-1.3bar ie boost needle flapping about and usually when the tune state is (bluefin, manifold,decat,exhaust etc) fit external boost control or bleedvalve and its fixed !

could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune

could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !

without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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madevelopments

good to see a tuner going closed loop control for boost
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
Having to use? Why?
from what I can understand lots of problems with the standard ecu and solenoid not coping with 1.2-1.3bar ie boost needle flapping about and usually when the tune state is (bluefin, manifold,decat,exhaust etc) fit external boost control or bleedvalve and its fixed !

could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune

could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !

without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
Exactly what is up with mine just now.
Standard boost control solenoid just doesn't cope with raised boost.
95% throttle is fine but as soon as you bury it and I hit 1.5-1.6 bar it just dumps the boost then builds again then dumps etc etc.
A new boost solenoid off Ford cures it for a while but then it returns.
I have the MSD chip, decat and K&N Gen II.
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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I use a Blitz SBC ID3, to solve said boost problem and because its a trick toy to have! Can't rate it enough!

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
We can't really supply them, well not for sensible money anyway. Ebay seems to be the best bet, in all honesty.
That's proper honesty, most companies would B/S to get a sale
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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does anybody know where i can get a eletronic valve like the autronic from?
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Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
Originally Posted by Kev.H
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lots of FRS peeps are having to use these
Having to use? Why?
from what I can understand lots of problems with the standard ecu and solenoid not coping with 1.2-1.3bar ie boost needle flapping about and usually when the tune state is (bluefin, manifold,decat,exhaust etc) fit external boost control or bleedvalve and its fixed !

could we need a stronger actuator at this state of tune

could it be the base map again I got mine switched back to the origional AE map to solve the AF cough 5k missfire (by the guy who actually wrote AF with prodrive\ford ) and he said AF held more agressive boost at the top end !

without knowing exactly what bluefin changes and with limited knowledge I can only speculate I think peeps with chips ie collins etc have also had the issue but then do they still use base map values aswell ?
Exactly what is up with mine just now.
Standard boost control solenoid just doesn't cope with raised boost.
95% throttle is fine but as soon as you bury it and I hit 1.5-1.6 bar it just dumps the boost then builds again then dumps etc etc.
A new boost solenoid off Ford cures it for a while but then it returns.
I have the MSD chip, decat and K&N Gen II.
what base map you on matey
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AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
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has anybody tried the blitz sbc?
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
well that blows my theory NathR will be pleased
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so do i leave it alone or what?
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
Originally Posted by flyingfocrs
AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
well that blows my theory NathR will be pleased
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Originally Posted by NathR
Originally Posted by Kev.H
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AE did "upgrade" to the shonky AF but managed to get it converted back about 2 years ago now.
well that blows my theory NathR will be pleased
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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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the blitz sbc colour thingie looks like a nice like kit
are u happy with your sbc then porkie??

btw love your dash
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I'm perfectly happy with my GReddy Profec-B Spec II. Itt wont do rev/gear based boost, but it controlls boost accurately and without spike. Setup is easy once you understand how it works and what everything means (the manual is very good, but it still need some thinking through)

So I'm happy - it does everything I need it to do, and is tiny so easily hidden. The actuator is well made and the loom is very good quality.
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RP Labs may be able to include closed loop boost control into a L8 ecu. the problem is lack of memory space. if you were prepared to forego closed loop fuelling, then it could easily be done.
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is the memory problem with the L8 the amount of physical memory that you can get in or is it the limit of the processor that cant address memory greater than xxx value even if it did exist..?
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Dave Henshall whoosh - straight over my head i'm afraid mate.

if i had to guess, i would probably say the latter

maybe stu can tell you, or ask nikola @ rp lab
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