stevo

Right me bros erst had a piper cam 285 running 190 bhp on optimax back in january(cooler)
Today i went to the same tuner but i fitted a kent 34 cam running optimax and today was bloody hot. car came out with 196 bhp.

So there u have it no more arguments over whats best.
now if today was cold like january i reccon 200 bhp would be on the cards

Rick

that proves absoloutelty NOTHING!!!!!

stevo

Are u blind u prick, same engine different cam more power

Cant u input that

RichardPON

APMSL - least scientific and most pointless test EVER

stevo

it wasnt a test u shit stabbers, just a note to say the kent cam is performing better on me bros standard rst.

RichardPON

On a different day with different ambients etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

stevo

thats rite, did u no that a turbo performs worse on a hot day, or is it cos ur fix or repair daily shitter is a non runner??

EIL132

As said above, same day, new cams,same rollers, same ambients and yeah it would prove something. Prob is how old was the Piper when it was ran up? What condition were the the lifters in? Did it have a vernier? Same plugs, same age? Ignition leads, rotor arm, cap, etc all the same condition? No tinkering since the last RR? Same wheels, etc, etc, etc, etc. Could go on forever and the answer would be no, the car wasn't the same as it was before

RichardPON

Pipe down you clueless prick!

Did you know that your test shows absolutely bugger all.

So it made more power - so what?

At what rpm did it make the power - higher or lower? Gain or lose torque?

What were the coolant temps, ACTs, ambients etc etc etc etc etc

Clearly your one little bit of knowledge that you thought you had has dropped you right in it................ TWAT

GUZZLER

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its a touchy subject, i think the 285t is better than the 285t2, any how,
after problems with 'piper' cams & their shitty attitude i would not buy
another one.
i have never had a problem with a 'kent' cam, so would deffo buy another.

as for 'stevo' he is just stating a fact of his, why you all so pissed off?

RichardPON

Because it's a fact with no evidence, and he tried and failed to insult me

It's the equivalent of saying that I went to the shops and bought a packet of crisps that tasted nice, and another pack tasted slightly better.

What I didn't tell you was that the first packet were eaten after I'd consumed a chocolate bar so it soured the taste.

Crap comparison but it actually happened today

Rick

U dense twat! Yea, i can read, and NO WAY can u say which cam is peforming better - what size/tyres pressures where the cars running Etc etc. Im not even gonna continue as uve just demonstrated u are know jack about cars, rolling roads and respect.

markk

iTrader: (2)

AFPMSL

Oranoco

The only properly fair test would be to drop a new Piper cam in a car and run it up and then swap the cam for a new Kent one and run it up again.

Personally I've never had any probs with my Kent cam and my bro also uses a Kent cam in his FRST. Having said that we used a Piper in the XR and that performed very nicely. So I'm fooking stumped

Switch

@Pon Get ypur hand bags out!!!

Matt

yeah pon are you blind or what you prick

Christian and Beccy

iTrader: (14)

So, is it JUST Kent and Piper that actually make cams for Fords in this country then??

John Laverick

@ stevo

Paul Eggleton

Rich you are obviously getting your chocolate and crisp combo's all wrong Me personally, i like a nice bit of variation too but you need to get the balance right. You don't say what you had exactly but I would have gone for a nice packet of walkers cheese and onion and a dairymilk. You throw a packet of salt an vinegar in instead and things aren't going to work out .

Another fav combo is the mother in laws fruit cake and a chunk of extra mature cheddar....[homer mode on]mmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnnnn[homer mode off]

CabrioTurbo

PMSL @ this post
I love the highly scientific experiment carried out
As above there are SO many variables that are an issue here.
Also i dont know how you can 'compare' 2 cams like for like in the same engine.. one is obviously going to give more power as it will suit the engine better than the other.. however given a different car the other cam may come out top..
Its all well and good saying this cam is beter than that one but it is entirely different depending on the spec of the engine!!
The only way to get the 'best' cam is to have a custom one made up that is specifiaclly for YOUR engine.. not any old engine with the 'normal' mods

Jon ERST S2

anyway it's not who makes it.. it's the profile that counts

SapphyMike

[Random Saying]

its not the winning, its the taking part that counts!!

[/Random Saying]

foreigneRS

another random saying - horses for courses

adamS2RST

Oh dear Steve, what have u let urself in for

vroooom ptssssh

same car, no changes. . . would prob make 2 diff figueres a day or 2 later..........