got loads of pics from when i had the engine out so let me know if you need any others, different angles etc.

They are all high res so i can zoom more if you need

 

fucking buftys the pair of ya

andy you coming central day and the piss up btw ,,,,,, as i need a lift

 

cheers andy what im trying to find out is where the engine loom meets the car loom got any pics ?

 

it meets behind the dash dont it and joins the live, neg and the water temot sensor inn the ecu ?????


a 2wd cossie does anyway

 

il take a look at the 4wd loom meets in the engine bay back in 10

 

Ginge i still aint decided what i am doing yet can sort it this week though


Ginge is correct it meats the loom wehre the relays are (ie behind dash)


p.s i aint a bufty

 

right think ive found it but theres 2 plugs some of the wires are the same though it looks promising if i took pics would anyone tell me if im correct and what wire does what and where to connect them

 

get some pics up so i can see what the hell your babling about


I did mine over a year ago but IIRC it was all simple enough and fairly straight forward (the looms shoud be the same other than the TPS wiring and maybe some other bits for a knock sensor etc for the 4x4's that had them)

the only bits i had and dramas with was the fuel and ignition relay wires where they were spliced for my alarm and imobiliser

 

2wd engine loom joins car loom via a single plug behind abs/ecu above the glove box inside the car.

4wd engine loom joins car loom in the engine bay with 2/3 multi plugs at the back of the cam cover area.

 

right here goes

SAPH 4X4 ENGINE LOOM
1X6 PIN CONNECTOR

CONTAINING
1XTHICK BLACK/RED
1XTHICK RED/BLUE
1XTHIN BROWN/WHITE
1XTHIN BROWN/GREEN
1XTHIN GREEN
1XTHIN BLACK

3DOOR LOOM
1X4 PIN PLUG

CONTAINING
1XTHICK BLACK/RED
1XTHIN BROWN/WHITE
1XTHIN GREEN
1XTHIN BLACK

1X2 PIN PLUG
CONTAINING

1XTHIN RED
1XTHIN BROWN/GREEN


now the only differences is 3door has a thick red/blue and the saph has a thin red anyone help me out here and are all the other matching wires a simple join up

 

dont go quite on me now

 

Get yourself a NMS Pectel Loom

 

thats zero help to me right now any excuse to post a pic though innit pete i could ring karl but wouldnt want to bother him being easter and sunday

 

Iknow its no use, thats why i did it

 

whats a NMS pectel loom

is that just a engine loom made by NMS or has it been made by pectel for NMS

 

i would of thought it was one of dingys looms might be wrong though anyway back to topic who can help me out

 

wheres all the experts

 

yes its a dingy loom, and nothing to do with pectel

 

So Karl has told me aload of bollocks then is that what your saying

 

Im sure he told u nothing of the sort.

Its a loom made by Dingy for NMS

 

So why on my receipt did he put pectel loom?

 

yo thread stealers help me out who gives a flock about petes loom HELP MEEEEEEEEEEE

 

 

SAPH 4X4 ENGINE LOOM
1X6 PIN CONNECTOR

CONTAINING
1XTHICK BLACK/RED = Fuel Pump Trigger
1XTHICK RED/BLUE = Permant Live
1XTHIN BROWN/WHITE = Water Temp Gauge
1XTHIN BROWN/GREEN = Not 100% on that one been a while since i've looked at a 4x4 loom (think it may be Oil Pressure Warning Light)
1XTHIN GREEN = Rev Counter
1XTHIN BLACK = Ignition Live

3DOOR LOOM
1X4 PIN PLUG

CONTAINING
1XTHICK BLACK/RED = Fuel Pump Trigger
1XTHIN BROWN/WHITE = Water Temp Gauge
1XTHIN GREEN = Rev Counter
1XTHIN BLACK = Ignition Live

1X2 PIN PLUG
CONTAINING

1XTHIN RED = Igniotion Live i think
1XTHIN BROWN/GREEN = Fault Finding Display (Pin 12 on ECU)

 

so 4 of the 6 are just a join up job but what do i do with the remaining 4 wires then

 

Well heres the problem.

The 3dr Loom uses a permanant live direct off the battery, the 4x4 loom uses a permanant live that comes through the main car loom, so you obviously wont have this on your loom, so you will need to sort that out.

Other than that, the only other wires the 3dr needs is:

Ignition Live (Thick Black)
Fuel Pump Trigger (Thick Black\Red)
Rev Counter (Thin Green)
Water Temp (Think Brown\White)


The final problem is the 3dr has a ECU check light on the centre console, this is controlled by pin 12 on the ECU, the 4x4 wont have this.


Hope this helps.

 

does it need the ecu check light ? as im using the 4x4 ecu anyway

 

no it doesnt need it to run.

 

rayn does the german 3 door diagram same as english?

 

the diagram im looking at says the brown/green is oil pressure and if your saying thats what it is on the saph do these just connect then were veiwing the german diagrams

 

jaycos, yes there both the same

cossiecrew, thats correct, but the oil pressure doesnt go to the ECU, so its deemed usless when used on a 3dr

 

give me a dummy guide dont tell me what they all are just tell me what to connect to what and what to do

 

Right:

3dr Main Car Loom to Saph ECU Loom
Thick Black\Red to Thick Black\Red
Thick Brown\White to Thin Brown\White
Thin Green to Thin Green
Thick Black to Thick Black

Thin Brown\Green on the Saph ECU loom is no longer used

Thick Red\Blue on the Saph Loom needs to be connected direct to the battery with an inline fuse. (15Amp)

The Brown\Green from the 3dr Main car loom is no longer needed either.

Think thats it.

 

1 thing is there thin blacks not thick

 

check it see if it ign live mark

 

right mucho respect to ryan and jay for your help will check them tommorow as its getting chilly outhere

 

or the 3dr loom cossiecrew?

will be an ignition live.

 

anadin ryan pmsl