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Old 15-04-2006, 06:17 PM
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one of my saph doors is not locking making the whole lot not lock when i turn the alarm on

i think its the drivers door, when i press it in it locks, when i press the pass front one in it locks then unlocks immediatley and the drivers side doesnt even try to move in,

could it be the solenoid sticking ?

how could i fix it ie buy a new one etc ?

any ideas ?

door is delocked by the way so cant do it with the key

HELP !!!!! lol

matt
Old 15-04-2006, 06:25 PM
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had the same prob on my saph cossie,...

turned out the clifford wasnt sending a signal to the motor on one side,...
bizzare, but after testing everything else, thats what the auto elecy came up with


but,...it is more thn likely the solenoid,...or maybe broken wires....
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Old 15-04-2006, 06:31 PM
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any idea how much a new solenoid is and can you change just that ?
Old 15-04-2006, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by slowpoke
any idea how much a new solenoid is and can you change just that ?
sorry matey,..no idea,,....its probably 2 years since i had the saff,....and have lost my ways when it comes to pricing cossie bits,....but would have thought they will be exactly the same as normal sierras....get to the nearest breaker,...but dont turn up in your cossie, or they ll double the price....


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Old 15-04-2006, 10:25 PM
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thanks carl

anyone else got any input ?

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Old 15-04-2006, 10:30 PM
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remove the door card and lubricate all the joints and pivots in the lock mechinism, then work the lock until it free's up, there are lots of pivot points so it's easy for one or more to sieze up.
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Old 15-04-2006, 10:31 PM
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Sit in the back seat lock both the front doors from inside & one of the rear doors then get out of the one that's unlocked & then flick the catch so its in the lock position & close the door behind you - all doors locked

Not quite sure how your gonna get back in though

(unless you climb in through the boot)
Old 15-04-2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ
Sit in the back seat lock both the front doors from inside & one of the rear doors then get out of the one that's unlocked & then flick the catch so its in the lock position & close the door behind you - all doors locked

Not quite sure how your gonna get back in though

(unless you climb in through the boot)
quality,......
Old 15-04-2006, 11:24 PM
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Exactly the same with mine as well, also with a clifford. Sometimes it does lock and my doors are delocked so have to go through the boot, luckily enough that opens whenever
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just get yourself a Trunk Monkey
Old 15-04-2006, 11:50 PM
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oh god , not the trunk monkey line
Any one who hasnt seen it get a gogle on the go, funny as hell!!!

Ok as for a temp fix try disconecting the cables from the solanoid in the drivers side as a temp mesure, if the system isnt connected to the faulty 1 the rest should opperate, means going through the passenger door but if it means the cr is secure does it matter??
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on a more serious not (if at all possible)


will they lock manually from inside the car?

if so, lock the doors from inside, then leave via the boot. (making sure you can get back in via the boot of course) - if not manually lock the doors and before clambering out, see if the remote still unlocks them ok.
Old 16-04-2006, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardC
on a more serious not (if at all possible)


will they lock manually from inside the car?

if so, lock the doors from inside, then leave via the boot. (making sure you can get back in via the boot of course) - if not manually lock the doors and before clambering out, see if the remote still unlocks them ok.
PMSL,have you tried getting through the boot of a saph???????



Get down the scrappy and get a solenoid off a Sierra m8,all the same 1990 onwards

Just converted mine from the shit 2wd saph central locking system to the 4x4 type system,scrappy charged £25 for the full set up,4xsolenoids/handles/locks the lot

Get your door card off first though and check you have got power to the drivers side central locking,plug with four wires goes to solenoid,there will be a yellow wire,white wire,red wire and brown wire.
Brown should be earth,
Red should be permanent live,
Yellow and white should alternate being live when doors are locked/unlocked,can't remember off hand which colour is live when locked/unlocked though
Pretty easy to tell though

If all these wires are ok it will be your solenoid,remove the complete locking mechanism off the car,the three big phillips screws you see by lock mechanism,all that goes to door handle is a cable
The bars and pivot points are only on the earlier wank system I've just removed off mine

Old 16-04-2006, 08:44 AM
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thanks guys

gonna have a root around the drivers door this morning

fook knows what it could be but all four doors have just been off for some bodywork lol

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Old 16-04-2006, 12:04 PM
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any ideas how much a solenoid is from mr fords ?

think its the solenoid thats fooked and theres hardly any scrappys round here now
Old 16-04-2006, 07:48 PM
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Have you checked all the wires I listed above?????

If the doors have been off I would say there is a good chance its just a bad connection on a multiplug

If your really stuck disconnect the multiplug to the drivers side central locking,then all you will have to do is reach across and manually lock the drivers door,close the other door and your central locking will still work on the other three doors fine

Old 16-04-2006, 08:22 PM
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i literaly just dumped about 10 sets of 90 spec door locks with the cables etc only yesterday

if you have the early door with the little buttons then you need to make sure the metal rods are siezing up, door cards off to make sure the yare moving proplery and not sticking
if it's the door handle lever style then it's more than likely to be a problem with the lock getting stuck

the best way is to get the motors and lcoks and handles from a 90 on wards sierra and swap the whole lot over, just rememerb that the later cars had the motors operating the wrong way, so when you lock it unlocks and when you unlock it locks, just change the wires around on the alarm and you'll be ok

but before you do any of this, get into the car and lock the doors from the inside
it will only be a problem with oe of the front doors but normally when the motor sticks it will cycle through locking and unlocking for upwards of 5 minutes before it gets somewhere
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Mine was doing that for a while now and again mostly on damp mornings in my garage,i lubricated all the pivots etc.
Old 16-04-2006, 08:30 PM
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i *think* I have a full set of solenoids if that helps at all? I can't be that far away from you. Give me a shout if you want to try it...
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one of them is deffo fooked i reckon and im sure its the front drivers

tried to contact clean all the multiplugs and still nothing, like i say if you lock the pass front then it tries to lock and then immediatley unlocks and the front drivers doesnt even move.

and if you disconnect the drivers plugs it will lock the other 3 doors

gonna get a auto leccy out to check it all over as it seems even more fooked now lol

now the clock, central locking, interior light and a couple of other little things arent working

when you open the drivers door the footwell light comes on for a second then goes off same as the clock, leave it a while and the clock will come back on again,

if you hold the drivers door pin / alarm pin in ie it thinks the door is shut the clock after a short time starts flashing again only to go off as soon as you release the pin

fookin car lol

to make matters worse the tyre place has put a tyre on in the wrong rotation lol

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Sounds like a bad earth or a fucked fusebox for everything to happen at once...

I'm around tomorrow Matt, if you want these solenoids.
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