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20-02-2006, 03:49 PM
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Top Result MSD Does it again !!
I decided last week to fit a MSD Closed loop chip to the Escos, well after
having to cut out the big wiring plugs and several other little niggles, Stu
had the chip and -31 delivered to my door in his usual quick time, and i am
now sporting a MSD sunstrip too
We fitted the New Chip and -31, then we testing on our own local "private
duel carrigeway.
After sort this, i decided to go with a mate to get his evo on the rollers for a power run, which we also booked in the cossie..
And sure enuff the setup was correct 359.7 BHP
And on the way up and back was averaging 30-34 Mpg...
Thanks Stu............
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having to cut out the big wiring plugs and several other little niggles, Stu
had the chip and -31 delivered to my door in his usual quick time, and i am
now sporting a MSD sunstrip too
We fitted the New Chip and -31, then we testing on our own local "private
duel carrigeway.
After sort this, i decided to go with a mate to get his evo on the rollers for a power run, which we also booked in the cossie..
And sure enuff the setup was correct 359.7 BHP
And on the way up and back was averaging 30-34 Mpg...
Thanks Stu............
Al............
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20-02-2006, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulCossie
nice.... think im gonna go closed loop on greys when the car is finished
Well done stu
What injectors gave you that power mate?
20-02-2006, 06:05 PM
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I am still on greens and there is plenty of fuel throughout... 
I just has run in with a Porsche Carrea, lol... The words " should have got
one of these came to mind ..lol............
Al.............
I just has run in with a Porsche Carrea, lol... The words " should have got
one of these came to mind ..lol............
Al.............
20-02-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexD
I am still on greens and there is plenty of fuel throughout...
I just has run in with a Porsche Carrea, lol... The words " should have got
one of these came to mind ..lol............
Al.............
I just has run in with a Porsche Carrea, lol... The words " should have got
one of these came to mind ..lol............
Al.............
20-02-2006, 06:15 PM
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Yes it is, i am well impressed, need to get a RS 500 Cooler Now....
The car drives soo much better now, much more ususable power..
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The car drives soo much better now, much more ususable power..
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22-02-2006, 12:14 PM
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Sorry to go slightly off topic, but...
Just a quick question regarding removing the large plugs at rear of engine - is it just a case of cutting them out and joining the wires (soldering) or is there more to it?
I ask because I am having to pull them apart, wd40/clean them and put them back together every month to cure an annoying misfire/jumpy rev counter
Also think it tidies the bay up nicely too
I remember the pics of RS Gus's old Saph when he had done this, but I never asked how he did it??
Many thanks in advance
Kev
Just a quick question regarding removing the large plugs at rear of engine - is it just a case of cutting them out and joining the wires (soldering) or is there more to it?
I ask because I am having to pull them apart, wd40/clean them and put them back together every month to cure an annoying misfire/jumpy rev counter
Also think it tidies the bay up nicely too I remember the pics of RS Gus's old Saph when he had done this, but I never asked how he did it??
Many thanks in advance
Kev
22-02-2006, 01:39 PM
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so whats the deal with closed loop?
how does it work, and how is it different to my stage 3 4x4 running a PE chip?
if mines a 1992 model, does that mean it has a cat? is this neccesary for closed loop
any info appreciated
rory
how does it work, and how is it different to my stage 3 4x4 running a PE chip?
if mines a 1992 model, does that mean it has a cat? is this neccesary for closed loop
any info appreciated
rory
22-02-2006, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin B
Sorry to go slightly off topic, but...
Just a quick question regarding removing the large plugs at rear of engine - is it just a case of cutting them out and joining the wires (soldering) or is there more to it?
I ask because I am having to pull them apart, wd40/clean them and put them back together every month to cure an annoying misfire/jumpy rev counter Also think it tidies the bay up nicely too
I remember the pics of RS Gus's old Saph when he had done this, but I never asked how he did it??
Many thanks in advance
Kev
Just a quick question regarding removing the large plugs at rear of engine - is it just a case of cutting them out and joining the wires (soldering) or is there more to it?
I ask because I am having to pull them apart, wd40/clean them and put them back together every month to cure an annoying misfire/jumpy rev counter
Also think it tidies the bay up nicely too I remember the pics of RS Gus's old Saph when he had done this, but I never asked how he did it??
Many thanks in advance
Kev
soldering and then heat shrink,however do each one at a time as they are not
all the same as you may think..
Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
they do the stage 3 kit as a diy dont they? devon is miles away!!! itl cost me Ł100 quid to get there but only Ł10 to get home 
Im just running it in then its a must!
Im just running it in then its a must!
for a RR session to check the fuelling,boost etc... Only soo much you can do
on a dual carrigeway :
Al.............
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23-02-2006, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
This will go some way to explain:
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...closedloop.htm
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...closedloop.htm
so as my car is green top 4x4, it has a lambda just behind the turbo
so what do i need for 30mpg, rather than 20
and can i fit it myself, or would it be worth the long trip to blackpool, as i have little experience with engine electronics
23-02-2006, 08:58 AM
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i am currently running 311bhp and thats enough for me for the minute
only had it a week.
its running a T3 and 803's so what would i need and whats involved with the kit
only had it a week.
its running a T3 and 803's so what would i need and whats involved with the kit
23-02-2006, 09:32 AM
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On a late spec car all the work is done for you, i simply need to send you a chip and a hardware key, you plug it in, make a few tweaks as per the instructions and your all done. Ł250 plus P&P
The ONLY limitation is it must be a totally STANDARD ecu that still has its original daughterboard. Pectel hardware is a no go.
The ONLY limitation is it must be a totally STANDARD ecu that still has its original daughterboard. Pectel hardware is a no go.
23-02-2006, 11:25 AM
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dunno if it has a standard ecu?
was stage 3'd in december 05, by power engineering with a receipt for 'stage 3 chip' Ł120?
as i dont use the car much, is it possible to send you my ecu? or are there other parts that need modifying?
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars? or is this just my car and likely to have another cause?
was stage 3'd in december 05, by power engineering with a receipt for 'stage 3 chip' Ł120?
as i dont use the car much, is it possible to send you my ecu? or are there other parts that need modifying?
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars? or is this just my car and likely to have another cause?
23-02-2006, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars? or is this just my car and likely to have another cause?
time, that and i had a crap collins dump valve on it that was leaking !!
Al...........
23-02-2006, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
dunno if it has a standard ecu?
was stage 3'd in december 05, by power engineering with a receipt for 'stage 3 chip' Ł120?
as i dont use the car much, is it possible to send you my ecu? or are there other parts that need modifying?
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars? or is this just my car and likely to have another cause?
was stage 3'd in december 05, by power engineering with a receipt for 'stage 3 chip' Ł120?
as i dont use the car much, is it possible to send you my ecu? or are there other parts that need modifying?
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars? or is this just my car and likely to have another cause?
Yes, you can send me the ecu and i will make the modifications to teh daughterboard and fit the chip FOC and post it back to you before 1pm next day, all you should have to do then is plug it in and go, although i do advise you have the system given teh once over by a pro with a fuel monitor who can set your boost and check teh fuelling is ok.
All Cosworths should idle, AND drive, teh same cold as they are hot.
Its worth noting a raised idle of between 1200 and 1400 rpm is normal on a cold YB until it gets some heat into it to allow a steady idle.
23-02-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
does this cure the random idling, (ie 1500 rpm on a cold start) associated with stage 3 cars?
23-02-2006, 11:44 AM
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hi stu,
i have a 1994 small turbo escos which i'm very interested in putting closed loop on.
all it has is a stage 1 tune with stainless exhaust, k+n induction kit, and superchip.
can you tell me what it would cost for the diy kit, and fitted with set up?
cheeRS.
i have a 1994 small turbo escos which i'm very interested in putting closed loop on.
all it has is a stage 1 tune with stainless exhaust, k+n induction kit, and superchip.
can you tell me what it would cost for the diy kit, and fitted with set up?
cheeRS.
23-02-2006, 11:45 AM
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That might be the cacky idle control valve sticking, mine does it from time to
time, that and i had a crap collins dump valve on it that was leaking !!
Al...........
time, that and i had a crap collins dump valve on it that was leaking !!
Al...........
Mine has started to that, nothing to do with the closed loop, on inspection we noticed the IISC was not closing properly & have been advised to get a new one.
from ford? or second hand?
23-02-2006, 11:49 AM
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alex, just out of interest, what rolling road do you use to get yours set up?
i'm not too far away from you and i'm after a good local tuner.
i'm not too far away from you and i'm after a good local tuner.