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Old 13-02-2006, 11:34 AM
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hi all can someone explain to me what a big wing sump is/how it works and what the point of it is
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Old 13-02-2006, 11:38 AM
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it's where extra capacity is added to the sump to increase the amount of oil it will hold,

this makes oil surge less likely during heavy braking/cornering ( where the oil surges to one side of the sump and leaves the crank running dry)

also helps keep oil temps lower too i beleive

only downside is oil changes cost more.

Martin Hadland makes them i think, and can probably do any capacity required (extra 1 litre,2litre etc)_
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This engine i built has one from martin on it. If you look at teh sump you can see how an extra "Wing" has been welded on.

The 2wd's have a wing either side, the 4wd onlty the one due to teh front differential being on the other side.

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That's my sump
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LOL - "is" until the ebay auction finishes
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did it only have a standard baffle in it ?
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Ryan,
There is nothing wrong with the standard set-up with a big wing set up. I have the exact same thing on my car, and have NEVER had any oil surge problems .
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how are ur wings done?

as this is my main concern for changing for a standard baffle.

are the sides of your sump drilled to slow the flow to the wings?
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ahhhh i see. thanks people. this is a bloody good place to find stuff out. your all soooooooo helpfull
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are big winged sumps only needed on transversly mounted engines? as ive never seen one on cvh,s ect, whats the deal with dry sumps then chaps? what advantages are thier running one of these?

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Originally Posted by Ryan
how are ur wings done?

are the sides of your sump drilled to slow the flow to the wings?
Yep .
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cool

wont bother with mine then.

as i think mine is an SCS one also

about 6 (16mm) holes on each side
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got told the sump i bought was of a race car,not too sure if it is though.

mine has a flap in it to slow the surging i think.

been strengthened too.








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bud-weis - who made that sump? looks v. nice!! Tasty welding!

Whats is a gated sump then? A type of baffle?
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
are big winged sumps only needed on transversly mounted engines? as ive never seen one on cvh,s ect,
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FORD did make wide wing sumps for the S1 when it was used in Rally (Group A)

the finis code was 9090061, i got pic too,
i don't think the local ford dealer would get one tho, lol
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Originally Posted by The Usual Suspect
as ive never seen one on cvh,s
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Jamie Going ran a big winged, oil cooled sump on his Q plater RS which was running a CVH.
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