How do they Cosworths are seen in the USA?
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How do they Cosworths are seen in the USA?
Just wondering about this? anyone from USA with one?
I'm used to see Americans with big V8's and so on, so I'm just wondering how cosworths (esc or sierra) are seen in the states.
I'm used to see Americans with big V8's and so on, so I'm just wondering how cosworths (esc or sierra) are seen in the states.
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Only a handful of us have Cossies in America. They were never offered in America. The ones that are here have been imported in, through odd channels as they don't necessarily meet America's stringent laws regarding bumper/body standards nor do they meet emission standards.
As for Sierras, we were offered only one model. They were renamed 'Merkur XR4Ti" rather than Ford Sierra XR4Ti. As you may have guessed, it was a rebadged, modified Ford Sierra XR4i with a Mustang/Thunderbird turbo engine, rather than the Cologne V6. It was marketed as an upmarket "European Ford" with the promise of BMW performance w/ a flair.
They are seen as oddball cars, at first disliked for it's grill-less look, additional piller, big bumpers, and intially their double-winged spoiler. However, there is a cult following here, and nowadays are considered quite good-looking, esp. when outfitted with Cosworth body parts.
They were all offered with air con, power steering, 5 speed and 3-speed automatic. Leather mostly and most had sunroofs & leccy windows. Some of the later models even came with cruise control (on the stalk - i'm considering retrofitting it in my Cossie).
Escort Cosworths were brought in by a company called Sun International. They "legalized them" and allowed them to be imported. To date, they're only about two dozen of them here. The Escort here is considered a cheap, bad car, so believe it or not, many Escort Cozzie owners remove the Escort moniker off their cars, in order for people not to consider it just a "cheapo Escort" with a bodykit.
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As for Sierras, we were offered only one model. They were renamed 'Merkur XR4Ti" rather than Ford Sierra XR4Ti. As you may have guessed, it was a rebadged, modified Ford Sierra XR4i with a Mustang/Thunderbird turbo engine, rather than the Cologne V6. It was marketed as an upmarket "European Ford" with the promise of BMW performance w/ a flair.
They are seen as oddball cars, at first disliked for it's grill-less look, additional piller, big bumpers, and intially their double-winged spoiler. However, there is a cult following here, and nowadays are considered quite good-looking, esp. when outfitted with Cosworth body parts.
They were all offered with air con, power steering, 5 speed and 3-speed automatic. Leather mostly and most had sunroofs & leccy windows. Some of the later models even came with cruise control (on the stalk - i'm considering retrofitting it in my Cossie).
Escort Cosworths were brought in by a company called Sun International. They "legalized them" and allowed them to be imported. To date, they're only about two dozen of them here. The Escort here is considered a cheap, bad car, so believe it or not, many Escort Cozzie owners remove the Escort moniker off their cars, in order for people not to consider it just a "cheapo Escort" with a bodykit.
More info on my website.
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Thanks for your info XR4Timan!
It's just like I thought it was. Anyway I didn't know that are so few cosworths in the USA.
It's interesting to see how diferent ppl from diferent places in the world see cosworths
For instance, in Portugal, if you mention Cosworth, Escort or Sierra, imediatly you get something like: Great Car! But most ppl can't tell you the diferences between a Sierra 1.6GL and a Sierra RS Cosworth lol
All the others that knows what a Cosworth is, say Cosworth (if it's a Sierra or Escort Cosworth) or just Sierra or Escort if it's not.
Interesting...
It's just like I thought it was. Anyway I didn't know that are so few cosworths in the USA.
It's interesting to see how diferent ppl from diferent places in the world see cosworths
For instance, in Portugal, if you mention Cosworth, Escort or Sierra, imediatly you get something like: Great Car! But most ppl can't tell you the diferences between a Sierra 1.6GL and a Sierra RS Cosworth lol
All the others that knows what a Cosworth is, say Cosworth (if it's a Sierra or Escort Cosworth) or just Sierra or Escort if it's not.
Interesting...
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I get tired of commuters here in America laughing at my Cosworth's rear whale tail spoiler. Little do they know, this functional bodykit is circa 1985 not 2005!!
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Remove it and let them give a ride
I've already tryed that with the blue 3dr I 've posted here before. I took the car for paiting and tailwing was off. At 80KM/h when I tryed to acelerate it just start to spin and nothing, didn't go any faster
I wonder what is like to drive it without the wing at 200Km/h eheh
btw, some idiot came the other day and asked me: is that a 1000cc?
My clever reply was: NO! it's a 1100cc
but in general, people older than 25 knows what a Cosworth is if it's a 3dr, but for sapphire they don't have a clue.
I've already tryed that with the blue 3dr I 've posted here before. I took the car for paiting and tailwing was off. At 80KM/h when I tryed to acelerate it just start to spin and nothing, didn't go any faster
I wonder what is like to drive it without the wing at 200Km/h eheh
btw, some idiot came the other day and asked me: is that a 1000cc?
My clever reply was: NO! it's a 1100cc
but in general, people older than 25 knows what a Cosworth is if it's a 3dr, but for sapphire they don't have a clue.
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I get similar things way down here in New Zealand.
There's around 50 or less Cosworths here and pretty much everyone under the age of 25 doesn't have a clue what they are or their history.
There's around 50 or less Cosworths here and pretty much everyone under the age of 25 doesn't have a clue what they are or their history.
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Originally Posted by snow*
I get similar things way down here in New Zealand.
There's around 50 or less Cosworths here and pretty much everyone under the age of 25 doesn't have a clue what they are or their history.
There's around 50 or less Cosworths here and pretty much everyone under the age of 25 doesn't have a clue what they are or their history.
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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
anyway we are still unbeaten here in our little tiny ISLAND Malta and still considered GODS!!!!
Let me go into a very stupid ignorant Yank mode for a minute pay attention cause this is just for you and it's not my attitude.....
Without US You wouldn't have anything, you'd still be holding hands with your sister who's your wife. yer right, without us you wouldn't be innovative enough to copy what you can't have. Ford wasn't made in Malta was it?
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Don't worry, I'm really not that ignorant, I just don't tend to make ignorant statements.
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lol now now ppl....play nicely....we've all got at least 1 thing in common here...fast Fords
Just on the topic of under 25's not knowing what a Cossie is......had 1 lad say "its not a cossie...its too short to be a cossie!!" and another 1 that said "I like it but, i'd take that spoiler off!!!".................twat.
Just on the topic of under 25's not knowing what a Cossie is......had 1 lad say "its not a cossie...its too short to be a cossie!!" and another 1 that said "I like it but, i'd take that spoiler off!!!".................twat.
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Just on the topic of under 25's not knowing what a Cossie is......had 1 lad say "its not a cossie...its too short to be a cossie!!" and another 1 that said "I like it but, i'd take that spoiler off!!!".................twat.
"That cars fat! where did you get your bodykit from!"
I said it left ford like that in 1987 and I quote
"nah man don't lie, do ya fink i'm stupid or some fink!"
At that point I jumped in and sailed sideways off the four court
Rich
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hey the ingnorant is who thinks without him the world is nothing. So let me be ignorant and remind you that the US is nothing without europe. The best minds all come from europe and if it wasn'r for the europeans the US wouldn't exicst!! So don't bring any arguments like these! What I wanted to say you answered me very good ie: That you Americans think you know it all. If I have to be gratefull for any one would be for the british!! But anyway I dont want to fight here couse I just love Fords irelevant if they are Europeans, Americans or Australians.
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
Just on the topic of under 25's not knowing what a Cossie is......had 1 lad say "its not a cossie...its too short to be a cossie!!" and another 1 that said "I like it but, i'd take that spoiler off!!!".................twat.
"That cars fat! where did you get your bodykit from!"
I said it left ford like that in 1987 and I quote
"nah man don't lie, do ya fink i'm stupid or some fink!"
At that point I jumped in and sailed sideways off the four court
Rich
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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
hey the ingnorant is who thinks without him the world is nothing. So let me be ignorant and remind you that the US is nothing without europe. The best minds all come from europe and if it wasn'r for the europeans the US wouldn't exicst!! So don't bring any arguments like these! What I wanted to say you answered me very good ie: That you Americans think you know it all. If I have to be gratefull for any one would be for the british!! But anyway I dont want to fight here couse I just love Fords irelevant if they are Europeans, Americans or Australians.
-Erik
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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
hey the ingnorant is who thinks without him the world is nothing. So let me be ignorant and remind you that the US is nothing without europe. The best minds all come from europe and if it wasn'r for the europeans the US wouldn't exicst!! So don't bring any arguments like these! What I wanted to say you answered me very good ie: That you Americans think you know it all. If I have to be gratefull for any one would be for the british!! But anyway I dont want to fight here couse I just love Fords irelevant if they are Europeans, Americans or Australians.
-Erik
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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
ok than friends 1st, enemys later but still you re a typical yank! if they re not with you they ignorant! respect first, friends later!!!!
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Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
ok than friends 1st, enemys later but still you re a typical yank! if they re not with you they ignorant! respect first, friends later!!!!
Oh, BTW....I'm Actually Peruvian and my parents came over to the good ole US of A to make sure I was typical just for you. Now please, put down your shovel! you're digging yourself into a hole! You sure you're not American??? You are exactly what you've described we are.
OH BTW, if you're not with me it's fine, I wouldn't think you're ignorant, just that you have your own opinion.
Sorry PT, I don't or should I say, I've never just come on to a post and insulted someone I don't know anything about and ruin a perfectly good topic that didn't have anything to do with me in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Sorry PT, I don't or should I say, I've never just come on to a post and insulted someone I don't know anything about and ruin a perfectly good topic that didn't have anything to do with me in the first place.
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Hey, my name is Adam. I am an American from Petersburg, VA http://www.petersburg-va.org/ I utterly worship Cossies and would like to move over there just to have one. For the mean time my xr4ti with its SOHC 2.3 turbo lump will have to do. Yes, American cars do suck so bad. There is nothing that great on the market over here. I am also a rabid TOP GEAR fan! Season 7 is awesome! So for now I will keep reading and looking at all your awesome eurofords and wondering why Ford does not have cool cars like that here. My name is Adam and I have cosworth envy! bad.....
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just before i took my sapph off the road i had some chavs come up to me an say is that 1 of those cossie fings man??? i relpied with a smug grin yeah of course next thing to come out his mouth was has it gotta real turbo an everyfing on it then??? the tit lol i just politly said nah man its just a plastic thing for show lol.... the the imature inbreed asked if he could have a go an if i didnt let him he was gonna come nick it hmmm i often wonder lol
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cossie 604 i had a little bunch of nobeds cum up to me and do the same thing!one of them said."thats a fiesta mate ,not a cossie thing!'' i wanted o wack the little shit!
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Originally Posted by MalteseFalcon
hey the ingnorant is who thinks without him the world is nothing. So let me be ignorant and remind you that the US is nothing without europe. The best minds all come from europe and if it wasn'r for the europeans the US wouldn't exicst!! So don't bring any arguments like these! What I wanted to say you answered me very good ie: That you Americans think you know it all. If I have to be gratefull for any one would be for the british!! But anyway I dont want to fight here couse I just love Fords irelevant if they are Europeans, Americans or Australians.
-Erik
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i was actually amazed at an american KNOWING what my old saff was! he llived next door to us for a year and was a missionary (spreading the word etc) as i was cleaning it he came over and started talking cosworth! i was sooooo shocked! and the yanks do have SOME nice motors! and some evil engines!
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a chav is a kid who goes around wearing a fake burberry cap,tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks,LOADS of sovereign rings and says "alright mush,got a fag?" that sort of person!
look here!
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/da...Chav_Chav..jpg
look here!
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/da...Chav_Chav..jpg
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Originally Posted by big_wig_074
a chav is a kid who goes around wearing a fake burberry cap,tracksuit bottoms tucked into their socks,LOADS of sovereign rings and says "alright mush,got a fag?" that sort of person!
look here!
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/da...Chav_Chav..jpg
look here!
http://www.chavscum.co.uk/4images/da...Chav_Chav..jpg
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Originally Posted by Fastmaul
Originally Posted by plynchy
Erik isn't a "typical" yank, he's not fat.
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