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21-02-2013, 06:29 PM
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few newbie question
I have a stage 3 saph, i dont know alot about tuning these and know whats safe and whats not, on standard internals and assuming fueling is ok, what boost can i safely run on my t3, are the rods ok at high boost? and what power can a t3 produce?
what power can you get from these engines before forging? cheers
what power can you get from these engines before forging? cheers
21-02-2013, 06:55 PM
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Your turbo will run out of puff at 300-310bhp shock internals can run up to and above 400bhp (205 block 380bhp/crank 560 or above /pistons as crank/rods as crank. psi 22 on T3.
Hope this helps.
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Hope this helps.
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21-02-2013, 06:58 PM
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21-02-2013, 07:29 PM
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Your block is probably good for the same power or slightly above , 380-450 as the 200 block has a thicker wall allowing you to long-stud it(machining your headbolts deeper into cast.) when it will be capable of 500bhp (ten long studs)
The block is only a container! (blast shelter) the rest is capable internally, as it was over-engineered.
Its the bits that feed it that fall short.
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The block is only a container! (blast shelter) the rest is capable internally, as it was over-engineered.
Its the bits that feed it that fall short.
Tim.
21-02-2013, 08:00 PM
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I have a stage 3 saph, i dont know alot about tuning these and know whats safe and whats not, on standard internals and assuming fueling is ok, what boost can i safely run on my t3, are the rods ok at high boost? and what power can a t3 produce?
what power can you get from these engines before forging? cheers
what power can you get from these engines before forging? cheers
standard rods = 600hp+
Crank = unless going mental like over 700hp, standard is fine
standard mahle's are forged cast = 550hp
The internals and the fact you have a 200 block is good for silly power
assuming standard head and cams, your t3 can do circa 300hp, my old t3 used to peak at 25psi (if i remember correctly) and hold 20'ish
what injectors are you running?
if the car is new to you, i highly recommend getting it set up correctly.
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assuming all is straight and in good order
standard rods = 600hp+
Crank = unless going mental like over 700hp, standard is fine
standard mahle's are forged cast = 550hp
The internals and the fact you have a 200 block is good for silly power
assuming standard head and cams, your t3 can do circa 300hp, my old t3 used to peak at 25psi (if i remember correctly) and hold 20'ish
what injectors are you running?
if the car is new to you, i highly recommend getting it set up correctly.
standard rods = 600hp+
Crank = unless going mental like over 700hp, standard is fine
standard mahle's are forged cast = 550hp
The internals and the fact you have a 200 block is good for silly power
assuming standard head and cams, your t3 can do circa 300hp, my old t3 used to peak at 25psi (if i remember correctly) and hold 20'ish
what injectors are you running?
if the car is new to you, i highly recommend getting it set up correctly.
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21-02-2013, 08:10 PM
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2wd or 4x4?
the green injectors are more than enough to run the t3 flat out, but my advise to you is to change the turbo for a t34 (either .48, .55 or .63). But to do that you ideally need to change the injectors
get a decent chip and go get iot set up, you've got turbo systems or NMS not that far from you
the green injectors are more than enough to run the t3 flat out, but my advise to you is to change the turbo for a t34 (either .48, .55 or .63). But to do that you ideally need to change the injectors
get a decent chip and go get iot set up, you've got turbo systems or NMS not that far from you
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2wd or 4x4?
the green injectors are more than enough to run the t3 flat out, but my advise to you is to change the turbo for a t34 (either .48, .55 or .63). But to do that you ideally need to change the injectors
get a decent chip and go get iot set up, you've got turbo systems or NMS not that far from you
the green injectors are more than enough to run the t3 flat out, but my advise to you is to change the turbo for a t34 (either .48, .55 or .63). But to do that you ideally need to change the injectors
get a decent chip and go get iot set up, you've got turbo systems or NMS not that far from you
21-02-2013, 08:39 PM
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the chip will need changing to suit the turbo change or ANY other changes you make (even increasing boost). It will need at the minimum a fueling check on a wideband sensor
siemens 55lbs if you can find a set or light blue bosch or even greys if you are changing the turbo. the .48, .55 or .63 is the size of the exhaust housing on the turbo. .63 being the biggest which will produce the most power but will sacrifice later spool compared to the .48
dont take this the wrong way but you cannot afford to be slap dash with the set up of these engines, otherwise i fear you will melt your engine if you dont get it right.
has the fuel pump been re-wired? another must do for a cossie. Also you dont want to be going beyond 350/350 with your gearbox if its standard.
my old cossie was stage 3, t34.55, siemens 55lbs, msd chip, decent clutch. normal other stage 3 bits and i'd say it was around 370hp peaking at 32psi of boost
siemens 55lbs if you can find a set or light blue bosch or even greys if you are changing the turbo. the .48, .55 or .63 is the size of the exhaust housing on the turbo. .63 being the biggest which will produce the most power but will sacrifice later spool compared to the .48
dont take this the wrong way but you cannot afford to be slap dash with the set up of these engines, otherwise i fear you will melt your engine if you dont get it right.
has the fuel pump been re-wired? another must do for a cossie. Also you dont want to be going beyond 350/350 with your gearbox if its standard.
my old cossie was stage 3, t34.55, siemens 55lbs, msd chip, decent clutch. normal other stage 3 bits and i'd say it was around 370hp peaking at 32psi of boost
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the chip will need changing to suit the turbo change or ANY other changes you make (even increasing boost). It will need at the minimum a fueling check on a wideband sensor
siemens 55lbs if you can find a set or light blue bosch or even greys if you are changing the turbo
dont take this the wrong way but you cannot afford to be slap dash with the set up of these engines, otherwise i fear you will melt your engine if you dont get it right.
has the fuel pump been re-wired? another must do for a cossie.
also you dont want to be going beyond 350/350 with your gearbox if its standard
siemens 55lbs if you can find a set or light blue bosch or even greys if you are changing the turbo
dont take this the wrong way but you cannot afford to be slap dash with the set up of these engines, otherwise i fear you will melt your engine if you dont get it right.
has the fuel pump been re-wired? another must do for a cossie.
also you dont want to be going beyond 350/350 with your gearbox if its standard
21-02-2013, 08:46 PM
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im looking for the same sort of power as that, how could you run that much boost?, do these t34's all just bolt on, and are 2wd ones the same as 4wd ones?
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21-02-2013, 08:57 PM
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i bet it sounded mental with that sort of boost, looks like ill be getting myself some of that lol
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