neo

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Has anyone got a picture or two of the slave cylinder mounted on a 2wd T5 box when converting to hydrualic ???

Cheers

tabetha

If you pm me your email I can send you some of the piccies of my "mk1" version with external cylinder.
tabetha

-beefy-

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tabs did you ever get round to putting a budget 2wd kit together ,

i know we chatted about it before fella ?


pm if you prefer ?


beef

tabetha

Yes I'm running it!!
I used the land rover master and decided due to health reasons, and reliability to go with a concentric slave, I used a Chevy/Mustang T5 kit from the us, cost was £123, plus about £15 taxes(they mistakenly put down wrong value!!), just tweaking it here and there but done around 1000 miles with it now with no problem at all.
I didn't like the reyland kit the way it was attached using lugs, and the price, very expensive for what it is imo, so went my own way, I've plated each side of the bulkhead, just making a different part at the mo that will mean the cylinder gets a more direct push, slight angle at the mo, but mines adjustable for height and ratio/effort wise, so you can have it either easy and long stroke or shorter stroke but harder.
In my own case the pedal is set about 1 - 1 1/2" higher than the brake pedal due to my left leg being around 1 1/4" shorter and not being able to reach ha ha!!
tabetha

-beefy-

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cushty , ill be getting in touch a little further down the line matey !


aint paying the burtons prices !

-beefy-

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tabs have you ever considered the focus hydro clutch setup that intergrates the master cylinder to the pedal itself opposed to the bulkhead ?

tabetha

I did consider it, the first hydro one I did was on a xr4i and that was on the pedal box, still going strong nearly 10 years on, the car this came out of was a rover sd1 with its 4L V8, ans super heavy clutch, when in the rover I had to take my welding set and metal etc etc to where my mum and dad were on holiday(hemsby), and weld the rover up as the cylinder had ripped clean through the bulkhead!!
tabetha

tabetha

The burtons kit uses the cheap and nasty std zetec concentric slave, the best one imo is the SAAB one, this is all metal, the kit I used from southwest was fantastic quality, very well worth the money, had to just trim the nose cone/bearing carrier down by 1.6mm in diameter and 10mm in length to suit going though the hole in the T5 bell housing, then just shim up spacer wise, all is supplied in the kit that you need, it's a joy to drive tbh with hydro, so so much lighter.
You could make a kit with the zetec slave for well under 1/2 the price burtons want even after machining costs.
tabetha

neo

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barnsey1971@aol.com for the pictures tabetha mate...

What slave cylinder did you use landrover 2A one

tabetha

To start with I used a land rover series 2/2a one yes, but later for various reasons went concentric, using a chevy T5 hydro kit, as getting no younger I went for the most reliable option I could, as can't work on car that easy these days, I'm 45, but health issues, had a probe shoved up me rs today, and a CT scan and fleuroscopy scan, see why I keep shitting/p'ing blood, oh well that's over thank god, just got me next lot of facet joint injections next month to loom forward to now, more "burnt" bollocks ha ha, kin el it stings when they use the swap wash, pure alcohol running between your bum cheeks and resting on the back of your balls where it evaporates off due to body heat, feels like someone is blow torching your jewels!!
tabetha

Phil2002

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interested in this too may be a upgrade in the near future.

neo

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Phil i hope your on about the clutch mod and not tabethas problems, Tabetha it sounds like your going through hell mate, i know what you mean like im 41 and have joints that do what and go where they want through 35 years of running.. feel like 90 when i get up on a morning cant walk proper sometimes....

JonnyBravo

My bellhousing has had a bracket welded onto it and runs a slave cylinder on the outside of it which is easily accesible. Not sure how much clearance you would have on a Saph or a Escort with the standard tunnel.

Tabs setup seems like the way forward for normal installations.

Phil2002

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Yeah the clutch mate. had to have my balls cut open once to have excess fluid drained off and have damgeded tissue repaired so obiviously had to have my prostate checked at the same time wouldn't fancey that again. what made it worse was that i could see through the crack in the curtain my other half pissing her self laughing that the doctor had just stuck his finger up my arse. anyway back on to subject would still be interested in seeing pics of this(the hydro clutch).

cheers,
Phil

space hoppers

very interesting read hear, is there a 4wd version in the pipe line. ive looked at the reyland kit and thought it was a bit expensive

tabetha

I can only straighten my right arm to 135 degrees, instead of straight due to elbow smashed, have genu recurvatum in both knees, with hyper mobility and hyper extension along with laxity of the cruciate ligaments in both knees, so they back as normal but also forwards and sideways too!!
tabetha

tabetha

There is absolutely no reason why this can't be used on the 4wd, the issue of the concentric slave is no biggee, the front bearing housing/nose of the box may not fit from the kit, but your existing one could always be lathed down or built up with a tube to match the size needed for the slave, IF different to the 2wd ?, then it is a case of fitting a long stud in place of one of the bolts holding it on, the slave uses this as a steady, to stop it rotating.
On the 2wd I had to use the new nose/bearing part as it was a different diameter, just had to reduce the diameter of the flange part by 1.6mm to be a snug fit in the bell housing aperture, and take 10mm approx off the end.
I welded up the slot in the bell housing on mine, then drilled two holes for the pipes, feed and bleed(remote), I then made a little bracket that bolts under a bell housing to engine bolt above the starter for the bleed screw, the kit appears to suggest the bleed is fitted on the slave itself!!, but I didn't do it this way.
The actual slave is part of a kit made by RAM RACING, in the us, RAM 78130,78132, so some good comes from the us apart from all the TRACI LORDS videos I have!!
I have been out in the car today to drop off some rubbish down the local tip, old paint tins crap this crap that all went in the boot of the cossie, and a old plastic table and chairs etc in the boot, the hydro is a revelation compared with the std cable set up, where most of the effort is used to overcome cable binding, due to the teflon liner rucking up.
tabetha

-beefy-

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traci lords eh.....


link to online vids


been a while since i heard that name lol !!


beef

RS SHAUN

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Would love to do this, but wouldn't know were to start!
Maybe someone could do a thread how to do it, start to finish with pics?
Cheers shaun

saph cos rob

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all in all i paid around £120 to do mine, i used the willwood 'pull' type slave cylinder and left everything as is, never even had to take the gearbox off! works sweet as a nut and has given me no problems in almost 10k miles

tabetha

I'd be more concerned about the oil around there if that was mine!!
tabetha

saph cos rob

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what oil?

neo

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Im going to go external slave as mines a race car and its going into a westfield anyway so i will make an inspection plate in the tunnel for repairs etc, not a big fan of internal slaves replaced to many over the years on daily drivers to be honest...

cossiedave

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that looks like a right lash up lol

tabetha

Just looked a bit damp to me, maybe it's my eyes!!
I think your idea of the pull slave is a LOT better proposition, so long as the slave is supported etc and not left hanging in the air, using the oe cable hole as the abutment point for the slave, shouldn't be too hard to make a bracket for that area to act as steady.
tabetha

tabetha

Failure of any internal slave was the prime reason I wanted a all metal slave, and paid for the best one.
tabetha

saph cos rob

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you love it dave

Phil2002

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good idea mate what pedal did you use?

saph cos rob

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master cylinder? think it was 0.75 with an external resiviour from compbrake

ShiftyOldScoob

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I will get around to doing this on mine one day

Phil2002

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any pics of the pedal and master cylinder set up?

tabetha

I also used a 0.75" master, with a universal type reservoir, mounted on firewall next to strut top.
I have piccies of the install if someone wants them email and to host them on here for others, just pm me.
The std pedal is used, but a hole drilled across it, got a detailed piccie of this as well as the adjuster I made up, done another one today for someone in oslo, I used a 5/16" rod end with l/h thread on it for the pedal end, if you use the original "bar" with clips that held the std locking pawl this is a very snug fit in the 5/16" rod end, even uses the same clips either side of the pedal to hold it to the pedal!!
tabetha

saph cos rob

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i wrapped it in that thermo-wrap stuff as mine gets very hot being so close to the downpipe, inside the bulkhead i added a reinforcement plate as imo the bulkhead it too weak just to mount the master cylinder staight to. hope this helps.

ClevoCapri

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How did you mount up the slave to the block? Looks like a nice conversion. Good work.

tabetha

^^ same sort of thing as me, but I re-inforced both sides of the bulkhead with plates, but now side mounting push rod so it is a direct straight push, so it doesn't impart any sideways force.
tabetha

opposite lock

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Send an email tabs i can put some pics up , would like this also bein as mine is apart

saph cos rob

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made up a triangular bracket that is bolted to the two underneath alloy engine mount bolts

ClevoCapri

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Sound easy enough. Thanks mate.