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Old 02-01-2011, 03:16 PM
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as above im going to order a new t38 what one would you prefer
Old 02-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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GT3071 ..............
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CR Turbos for me Damo.
Old 02-01-2011, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
GT3071 ..............
i didn't even have to read your post to know what was said
Old 02-01-2011, 03:37 PM
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Depends too much on engine spec really.

A TT unit is going to make more power on the right engine but probably not be as driveable as the cr unit would be on the right engine.
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Originally Posted by JonnyBravo
Depends too much on engine spec really.

A TT unit is going to make more power on the right engine but probably not be as driveable as the cr unit would be on the right engine.
it is going on a road car mate the head will be ported to suit and the cam's will also be changed and i might even play with the compresion
Old 02-01-2011, 03:52 PM
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Is it going on a 4wd or 2wd car , if its 4wd i would go for either the CR or UT version as they dont give massive torque but do give useable smooth power.
I think both the UT and CR versions will be much the same as Vince worked for both places, the CR version might have had some updates like the option of roller core.

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Originally Posted by NEIL A
Is it going on a 4wd or 2wd car , if its 4wd i would go for either the CR or UT version as they dont give massive torque but do give useable smooth power.
I think both the UT and CR versions will be much the same as Vince worked for both places, the CR version might have had some updates like the option of roller core.
it's a 4x4 it's getting the gearkit to take the torque
Old 02-01-2011, 04:05 PM
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For me Damo it would have to be the shiniest one
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i would get a gt series and be done with it so much better and not alot more money
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Originally Posted by dakar
For me Damo it would have to be the shiniest one
Coont Steve..
Old 02-01-2011, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rsmark86
i would get a gt series and be done with it so much better and not alot more money
i want a t38
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Originally Posted by dakar
For me Damo it would have to be the shiniest one
that would be the tt one i think
Old 02-01-2011, 04:13 PM
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none, t38's are shit imo
Old 02-01-2011, 04:15 PM
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T34.48 Damo, awesome road car, you'll not regret it don't get caught up in numbers mate especially on 4x4 transmission..

A T34.48 live map, 55s you'd be shocked trust me..
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Originally Posted by AJC
none, t38's are shit imo
what turbo you running mate
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Originally Posted by staffi
T34.48 Damo, awesome road car, you'll not regret it don't get caught up in numbers mate especially on 4x4 transmission..

A T34.48 live map, 55s you'd be shocked trust me..
the gear kit is next pete
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Damo, what's the most powerful cossie you've owned/driven?? i'm not being funny kust curious, you say you want a fast road car and i think personally a T34.48, EVEN 55/63 make great road cars, now i'm not saying GT3071s don't befroe anyone jumps on me, but imo and experiance the T34.48 live mappad makes a superb car, as said especially on 4x4 as you'll hammer diff's etc on the T38 with 400-450ft/lb..

Just my 2 penneth mate..
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Originally Posted by staffi
Coont Steve..
You know all these numbers confuse me Pete,so i would just pick the shiniest......simples
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Originally Posted by staffi
Damo, what's the most powerful cossie you've owned/driven?? i'm not being funny kust curious, you say you want a fast road car and i think personally a T34.48, EVEN 55/63 make great road cars, now i'm not saying GT3071s don't befroe anyone jumps on me, but imo and experiance the T34.48 live mappad makes a superb car, as said especially on 4x4 as you'll hammer diff's etc on the T38 with 400-450ft/lb..

Just my 2 penneth mate..
pete im young and foolish


only kidding tbh pete only ever got a fast run in 1 fast t34 escos from memory i wouldn't know if it was .48 or 55 etc as it was buy accident was in a town a good few miles from where i live got talking to a very nice chap in the street with this escos went for a run it was fast that is for sure it wasn't live mapped he never heard of it
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Originally Posted by staffi
Damo, what's the most powerful cossie you've owned/driven??
this is my first pete im only a boy yet
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im on a gt30 on my escort, and a t34.48 on my saff

from the cars ive driven/been in with t38's i thought they were rubbish

sorry but just my opinion
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my car is a good set up i have the tt t35 my car is 375 bhp and the same in torque and i want more power
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4x4

3rd and 4th gear will die unless you have an uprated gearbox and diff - mine was very responsive in these gears

Graphs show what the boost came in like - 403 greys - Harvey spec T38 - STD engine


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thanks chris yes an uprated gearbox is next on my shopping list
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Originally Posted by damien roe
thanks chris yes an uprated gearbox is next on my shopping list
Damo,

You're spending AHELL of alot just for a road car bud.. i hope you know what you're getting into mate, again, not my buisness, just friendly advice...
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How much is a big box for a 4x4??? and uprated diff
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ur talken about £2500 mininum
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Originally Posted by paddyrs
ur talken about £2500 mininum
And the rest Pad, Diff's 1k+ a box surely 3kish??


I'm glad i'm not buying it all...

Damo, T34 trust me, you'll save thousands..
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Damo, don't forget monster brakes too....
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Originally Posted by staffi
Diff's 1k+ a box surely 3kish??
Originally Posted by staffi
Damo, don't forget monster brakes too....
Oooooccchhhhh!!!!!!

4x4 transmission is the weak link
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have you tried a 34.63 standard head and 55llb siemens damo ,will give a real nice 380bhp just within the limits of your box and diff and a good reliable fast road car.
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If i new what i know now,when i built my t38 engine,i wouldnt of bothered,ither stayed t34/63 or fitted a rb t4

cheeRS stu
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Originally Posted by NEIL A
Is it going on a 4wd or 2wd car , if its 4wd i would go for either the CR or UT version as they dont give massive torque but do give useable smooth power.
I think both the UT and CR versions will be much the same as Vince worked for both places, the CR version might have had some updates like the option of roller core.
Mines a cr turbos r/b t38 Neil.
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Problem with rb turbo's is you cant use lc\al think my money would be on a t4 rb,or depending on other spec of engine,if fairly standard,ie no cams or head work,t34/65 rb

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GT30/71


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Originally Posted by staffi
And the rest Pad, Diff's 1k+ a box surely 3kish??


I'm glad i'm not buying it all...

Damo, T34 trust me, you'll save thousands..

gearbox 1800 to 2000 am waiting on opplinger geting back to me i can get a diff for 500 . i am buyen all this to as am goen for 500 to 550bhp
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£500 for a diff?? what make and surely not new??
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Stu I think the roller core that Vince fits uses metal cased bearings so should be fine with mild antilag and lc. I use to have a UT T38 and thought it spooled as quick as the T34.55 i had on before it, I wasnt overly impressed by the rb T4 not for the £1600 i paid for it.
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t34.48 with greys or 55s and live map as pete staffi says, ive got t34.48 and greys and a live map and it is the best set up ive had along with t34 and light blues years ago, i had the utt38 with 83lbs and the rbt38 cr turbo with me greys and t38s are just not for me
also a good t34 mapped car with 55s will prob do a t38 powered cossie up to a ton in a race.....


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