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Old 06-01-2010, 11:01 PM
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Default Puma engine in mk1 focus??

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I have a good focus shell 3door with a well blown 1.4 ive removed that and have a chance of a tuned 1.7 puma complete but damaged as the 1.7 is only a few horses down as std on the 2.0 zetec i was thinking of using it.. is this worth doing?? I was wondering about the gearboxes is the puma cable operated or rod etc any thoughts much appreciated...

Ah yes the 1.7 is tuned to 150bhp is it worth the hassle???
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Sounds like a lot of hassle to be honest. Guessing it's a racing puma spec engine if it's up to 150?? You'll need different engine mounts, the gearbox is different-ib5 as opposed to mtx75 i think (not sure how this differs with the cables/rods but might mean you need different driveshafts) pumas also run the variable cam timing and I'm assuming you'd have to run it on a racing puma ecu and loom. Could put any engine you want in for that much messing about. You can get an st170 lump for less than a grand and I'd imagine they just drop straight in.
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Cheers for reply i was thinking it may be a pig of a job maybe stick with std focus parts instead then...
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Be a lot easier pal. Only know myself because I've just bought a frs engine to go in my puma
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A lot more tuning potential in the zetec and duratec engines than the SEs
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Originally Posted by craigk47
A lot more tuning potential in the zetec and duratec engines than the SEs
Zetec-SE's are very tunable.
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Maybe so but only to a point and the parts aren't as readily available
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Originally Posted by craigk47
Maybe so but only to a point and the parts aren't as readily available
What parts are hard to find?
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Should fit ok. They put the focus 1.4s in the pumas, so the 1.7 should fit without toooooo much bother!
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its doable i reckon, se for se, cant be that hard!?..........famous last words haha
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Thanks for the replys guys i can get the whole car for £400 as its been side swiped and then parked up in a dry garage for 3-4 yrs and lady just wants rid thats why i was tempted i think i'll pop over and take a closer look see what the crack is....

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So is the focus 1.4 engine an SE or an E? Apologies if I've been talking crap.
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SE mate, as is the 1.6 focus Mk1. the Mk5 fiestas all use Se's to as do pumas

E's are the 1.8 & 2l focus's and mondeos i beleive

thats why i reckon itll be easy to do, and if its only £400 if it all goes wrong itll break for more than that anyway
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SE is the 1250,1400,1600,1700 engines in Fiesta/Pumas.
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go for it, should be about the same amount of time/money as putting another 1.4
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surely like for like?
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Im going to give it a go i reckon...Ive kept the alternator/engine combi bracket mount and some other bits and bobs that should aid me..I going to see the car in the week I 'll let you all know how i get on!!
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engine will drop straight in,you will need the engine bay loom,ecu maf,key,and what ever sensors are needed should be fairly straight forward really,go for it i say
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wouldn't hurt the se is a great little engine out the box, just so so revvy even stock, was great fun in a fiesta dunno how rapid a focus would be with one in though as they're not very torquey
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how you getting on fitting it?
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I picked the car up and the damage hardly warranted the car being taken off the road so i flogged it to my brother he's using it now it goes well tho fairplay....Problem is i still have an empty space in the front of my focus lol...
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I could sell you an frp engine. Wouldn't be as cheap as your last one though Plenty of cheap fiesta zs engines on fleabay. As I was talking shit when I said they weren't very tuneable you can get 210 brake out of them with throttle bodies, cams, management etc
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still go for a 2.0 duratec / zetec myself though. Plenty of torque for the extra weight of the focus
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Just done this conversion went very smoothly as the blocks are extremely similer, just need to modify drivers side mount as had to use the focus one also need to swap round power steering pump.
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Excellent, What spec focus did you put in? What did you do with loom etc? any pics?
Thanks
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