focusrrx87

hi im new on here and have a few questions about a zetec turbo im building. (sorry 2 bore u about this again) owen my focys for 3 years need more power now. brought a 2.0 zetec and is now stripped.

im gonna be using a st170 head how do u go about blanking off the vvt?
im gonna be using piper cams for zetec turbos and was told to lose the vvt? any proplems using this??

also how do go about gettin the oil feed and return, then block off the breather. read loads about it but hope u can tel me straight.

will be using a st170 getag box, again told this bolts up no trouble. but was told by a yank it's only good for 280Nm?? surely not true?

and lastly what compression ratio shall i use?

hope u can help.

spec (until corrected) lol
2.0 blacktop
t3/t4 hybrid turbo
obx manifold
st170 head
piper cams/pulleys
focus rs valve springs
forged piston/conrods
pepper performance plenum
arp bolts
st170 gear box
omex 600
this is just a basic list for now.

thanks

crazycage

what power do you want??

focusrrx87

about 240, 250ish, wiv room for more in the future

crazycage

why not just build a blacktop then ???much cheaper and easyer and better imo, with the right bits will do 350bhp easy.

p-s ive been running one for two years now.

focusrrx87

crazycage, so scarp the st head? u sound like the guy 2 talk 2 what spec is ur engine m8? build it urself?

im findin to many options wiv these engine eveyone and eveywhere has different ideas i just want a reliable 250bhp and when i get bored go for a bigger turbo and up the boost.

thanks for replying

crazycage

mine is a standard blacktop head and cams with steel rods forged pistons 8-7-1 cr custom inlet and exhaust manifolds gt2871 turbo runs well over 300bhp reliably and does 12 second 1/4miles, ive also been down the st170 turbo rout.

focusrrx87

very nice indeed, rite st head up for sale,
what would say is the most power i'll get from my spec?

crazycage

depends on the turbo

focusrrx87

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Crazycage - What exhaust manifold is that?

crazycage

its one of the ones i made mate

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

Fancy making another

Did some work on the Fiesta today and remounted the MTX but need another manifold now as it sits further forward.

crazycage

i can do mate ! i thought you binned off the mtx in the mk1?

XRT_si

iTrader: (2)

How much you looking for one roughly?

I did mate but had another go at fitting it and its not as bad as first seemed. Was using a dummy block, but now the engine is built up and the inner wing was cut to clear I seemed to have gained a fair bit of room.

gramsey

hows this going focusrxx87? Ive just got myself the 2.0 blacktop to do a zetec turbo.
Its only stripped at the moment but building a spec similar to yours. Hoping for about 300bhp but not sure as i cant find out enough info
Let me know how its goes

focusrrx87

hi m8 it's goin fine got my block back today now rebored, gonna start rebuilding very soon next week or so i'll keep ya posted,
the spec list has changed a lot from the 1 i first put up,
gotta pectel t2 and loom for a start bined the st170 head vvt 2 much hassle gonna get the stanard 1 potred. st170 gearbox goin 2, focus rs 1 goin on.
accralite 2.1 pistons eagle rods.
bottom end rebuild first new oil pump, crank oil seals, p.e.c main caps/con rod caps.new sump and gaskets and arp con rod rod bolts for a start,

1 thing i would say is budget more than u think iv prob spent 2k so far and need stil need both manifolds. im not counting anymore it's depressin, luckily my best friend builds engines which is a bonus.

i'll keep ya up 2 date.m

focusrrx87

and im now aiming for 350bhp.

gramsey

sounds like your all sorted mate, cheers for the update it gives me more of an idea of which way to go. the st170 head sounds more hassle than its worth.
whats the reason you went for the pectel t2 insted?

focusrrx87

just search 4 pectel t2 on here ur'll hear nothing but gr8 things.
it was designed for zetec engines that were used in formual ford single seater racing, a motorsprt spec ecu. i got mine 4 a bargin 700 quid for the ecu and loom.

the ecu cost that on it's own plus another 450 4 the loom.

hopin 2 have mine finshed in the car and then mapped by grove garage by march sumtime, then hit the track at fordfair.

focusrrx87

here's my shoppin list hope this helps.

2.0 blacktop now rebored 2.1
t3/t4 turbo
obx turbo manifold
accralite forged pistons 86.5mm
eagle steel conrods
piper turbo cams
cfm vernier pullys
piper cam belt
focus rs valve springs
new shims
port and polished head
cfm throttle body
pepperperformance plenum
p.e.c main bearings
p.e.c big end bearings
arp con rod bolts
arp main studs
arp cam bolts
arp head bolts
arp fly wheel bolts
focus rs gearbox with lsd
focus rs clucth
lightweight flywheel
cfm msd ignition pack
60lbs injectors siemans
universal intercooler
oil feed and return
complete gasket set
new sump and cradle
new crank oil seals
cfm billet steel oil pump
pectel t2 ecu/ custom loom

and various other little things no doubt.

gramsey

wow cheers mate, sounds like your well on your way, thanks for the spec it gives me something to work on and a guide to whats needed found it hard trying to find info off people but thats spot on!

Hope it all goes well mate

MisiekT_PL

sorry, a question about "rs1800i inlet manifold" - why is it better than stock?

focusrrx87

the stanard 1 is plastic and would melt. the rs1800 1 is metal and wont melt. lol, only reason.

focusrrx87

cheers m8 and no worries.
yeah i found it hard wen i first started lookin, i done a months worth of research and joined here pretty sorted now tho i think, if ya need any help let me know. i'll try and answer it if not i'll ask some1 esle. lmao.

MisiekT_PL

thanks for info on the intake manifold - a bit of suprise as I've seen a 330HP FRS and 300HP Zetec 2.0 running on stock intake manifold without any problems...

focusrrx87

i dnt fancy taking the chance lol, turbos run very very high temps and plastics melt.

a company called pepperperformance make metal inlet manifolds and plenums
they make them for kit cars but do short versions for road cars.