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Old 25-10-2005 | 04:38 PM
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just bought 2 rear load valves brand new off e-bay for £30,bargain as they are £120+vat each from fords.
anyway how do you fit them and do they need any adjustment.
Old 25-10-2005 | 04:42 PM
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Are yours fooked? If not leave well alone until they need replacing. If you fit them they will need setting up or you may find the back of the car trying to overtake the front when you least expect it
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yes mine are fooked rusted solid back of car overtakes front on hard braking as it is now.i wouldnt change them otherwise.
Old 25-10-2005 | 04:57 PM
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Best change them then.

You need to speak to a good Ford tuner who understands these brakes. i.e not KwikShit.
Old 25-10-2005 | 06:26 PM
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i will have the same problem.i tane mines off for underbody restoration and going to put new ones on.will ford garage set them up
Old 25-10-2005 | 07:21 PM
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I removed my originals when tarting up my underside, painted & refitted them however as they were still operational
Old 25-10-2005 | 08:03 PM
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how can you replace them, what brake set up do ou need to get them to flock?

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Old 26-10-2005 | 05:09 PM
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if u run a bias valve can u not bother with the load valves ?
Old 26-10-2005 | 05:52 PM
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Yup, ditch the load valves and get a bias valve
Old 26-10-2005 | 06:55 PM
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sweet good job i bought one then
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Not wanna be blonde but wot are bias valve? do they need setting up??
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The difference between the standard load valves and a bias valve are...

The standard load valve are mounted on the body with a link arm onto the rear suspension (one on each side/circuit), when you press the brakes the rear of the vehicle wants to go up meaning the rear wheels have less grip. If the load valves were not there or incorrectly adjusted the pressure would not be reduced to the rear brakes and they would lock up.

The bias valve goes into the pipe to the rear brakes, it reduces the amount of pressure to the rear brakes by limiting the flow or brake fluid (like standing on a hosepipe reduces the flow of water). The valve is adjustable so you can set the balance or 'bias' between the front and rear brakes.

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Originally Posted by Moonie
The difference between the standard load valves and a bias valve are...

The standard load valve are mounted on the body with a link arm onto the rear suspension (one on each side/circuit), when you press the brakes the rear of the vehicle wants to go up meaning the rear wheels have less grip. If the load valves were not there or incorrectly adjusted the pressure would not be reduced to the rear brakes and they would lock up.

The bias valve goes into the pipe to the rear brakes, it reduces the amount of pressure to the rear brakes by limiting the flow or brake fluid (like standing on a hosepipe reduces the flow of water). The valve is adjustable so you can set the balance or 'bias' between the front and rear brakes.


Thats cool mate cheeRS, Where wud i get 1 from coz i strip my rear to do the chassis rails, and i really didnt wana put it back on!
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Are you sure yours are f'ed?
If you've taken them off you must have altered the adjustment.
Don't forget no fluid flows through them when the rear of the
car starts to lift/under heavy braking/this is how they work.
Most people refit them without having them correctly adjusted
which simulates the rear end of the car in the air which of
course means no fluid comes through and leads Many Many
people to believe theirs are no good and need replacing.
I've NEVER come across any that can't be coaxed back into
life. But, as Oranoco correctly says above once back on and
working be very careful about setting them up/backwards
down Lea Bridge Road at 5pm on a Saturday afternoon
ain't a lot of fun..........
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so you make sure the car is level when bleeding the rears then?
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Originally Posted by akito-man
so you make sure the car is level when bleeding the rears then?
The car must be on the floor when bleeding the rear brakes mate.
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cheers, by the way ,theres a company that makes the valves called budbeg,and there damm cheap compared with ford,ive done my research
and they do an exchange service.they do all your breaking requirements,

its cheaper to get your calipers swapped /exchanged than getting obselite seals,i got fords last seal kit in the uk.its still sitting in the garage as i needed 2,so i just sent my calipers away for newish ones,2 year waranty
and like new.

ill hafta re-bleed the brakes bfore mot time,the cars off the road now anyways.
Old 31-10-2005 | 08:25 PM
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I removed mine altogether when i did my underbody resto and fitted the late ford valves,mounted them on the rear chassis rails ,no setting up just bleed them ,have had no trouble at all with them.

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Makes no difference whether the cars up in the air, level, or even upside down.........AGAIN if the valves are incorrectly adjusted thereby SIMULATING
(not actually) the rear of the car being in the air NO FLUID IS ABLE TO FLOW THROUGH THEM which is what they are designed to do but only under heavy
braking.
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Originally Posted by Twins
I removed mine altogether when i did my underbody resto and fitted the late ford valves,mounted them on the rear chassis rails ,no setting up just bleed them ,have had no trouble at all with them.


Looks like a very neat installiation

Im planning a rear disc conversion soon, do you have the finis code for the valves and where did you get the braided lines made up?

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Old 01-11-2005 | 05:40 PM
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The finis code i have not got ,but they are the ones for the ka etc (go on the master cylinder i think ) the braided is the normal braided line kit by goodridge for the erst ,but i use them back to front as i have focus rs calipers on the front , so i dont need as much lenght
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