sufsRS

wot have you got, just seen the ram air one on pj motorsport website looks the nuts but is any better then a k and n???

Combi_Chris

its an air filter , keep the standard box and make a feed up for it . they might all look different but they all do the same thing . the difference is minimal

sufsRS

disagree with you their m8 once your moving the kandn is alot better difference is deffo not minimal

james_birch

i got piper cross one....dam thing needs cleaning all the time....but if you look at rally cars and that you will see there not useing paper filters they use foam!...so my whole reason for goin piper is that!

if i was buying a new filter i would go ram air.....

sufsRS

nice one dude just seen this one on e bay looks the bollox never seen one before, so if anyone knows how they perform let me know http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

T28 RST

Standard Ford filter on mine

james_birch

yes we all know what ava think...ive been on the phone to them......and they told me to do that...then i look at karls web site and others an they all use cone filters! so either way...i dont think it matters! that plastic shell cant keep out to much heat ya know!

Combi_Chris

im using a piperx on mine right off the turbo, as i have no k jetronic to worry about , but i honestly cant see that any one filter gives a significant improvement over another of the same design

Andy-R

Just do your own thing! convince yourself that the ££'s your spending 'do make a difference' to your power.

Oh!!! and see if you sit really really still, whilst booting it, you may 'just' feel the increase in power.

vroooom ptssssh

I remember a small test done on a RR. .

cone filter equiped car, made X amount bhp on a run...

same car with cone filter. . but the cone covered in a cold air feed of its own. . made +15bhp.......

and the fans on this RR were probably one of the if not THE best set ups around

std ford airbox and filter for me, albeit the airbox modified slightly

Stoo

Standard Airbox for me too

JamboRS

yip standard airbox for me too,must be an AVA thing

rabmc

Standard box lads with the rst had both and always prefered the latter , but if it chatters run wa the filter

GrimmeRS2K

i use that pro ramair filter on mine, just because its fits perfectly in my morrette headlamp hole!, and that piece on silcon pipe angles it towards the front of the car, mine makes a very loud sucking noise!

i had the pipercross one before on top of the metering unit, but its to close to the turbo and sucks in hot air, hence why mines tucked away in the headlamp, and also ive heatwrap foiled the silicon pipe with the filter to protect it a bit more

sf

yip std box for me, too,def a ava thing, god all these cars with the std boxs are slow, mmm, strange one that

james_birch

no one said they were slower!...so dont get what your trying to imply!

sf

that all the cars that ava have done, they all still have the std box, must be a reason, end of day owners choice, i wouldnt change though

NIMRODS_RST

iTrader: (6)

Green cotton filter for me

james_birch

and go to nms web site and karl says about a k&n....and he has made some nice power engines! go to scs (harvey gibbs) and he says std air box! go to other places and they all say diff....what makes ava so right?...not saying there wrong but each to there own! ...just like dump valves...some like,some dont...simple....

sf

just cause they done my car, plus fast ford or pf done a rr test aswell and it came out that the std air box modified was better

james_birch

i read that one...but the induction kit came out with higher torque figure...std air box for bhp induction for noise and torque....

but hey hoe...at end of day i dont think 2/3bhp matters...does it??? just whack a couple more psi on! ..lol..

T28 RST

Its really down to what the owner wants coz you will never get a true answer to what is best.

Every tuner is going to tell you a different story about air filter/airbox.

adamS2RST

Ive had a filter before, rather keep the box imo, never noticed a difference but im sure a filter not in the box would suck up all that lovely engine bay heat

AKRS1

One thing i dont understand is why you need a cold feed to the filter in turbo cars. Once the air enters the turbo from the filter doesnt the air get hot anyway from the turbo being so hot. I dont know is this true or does a cold feed help

GrimmeRS2K

any colder air helps surely, if the airs cooler on entry, by the time it goes through the turbo it must be slightly cooler on outlet, if u see air filter tests on rst's using airboxes etc they always recommend a cold air feed to the airbox, or cutting the front of it out

akito-man

interesting!

cold air+petrol=excellent firing,

warm air +petrol=better atomising,

the cooler the air ,the more dense the mixture,me thinks a cool air flow is in order+a heat sheild for my k+n

juss like when you drive,the warm air is pushed out of the bay through the bonnet slats,if you block em for your k+n rain protection,you should have a seperate air feed to compensate,complete with its own water drain!,so,if you place your pipe low down,the rain splashes will drip away,but if you go through a puddle youll drink the water in and hydraulic your engine ,

therefore,my thesus on the matter is,
wear wot skirt you like,as long as you know the limits of your intentions

Rsmat

iTrader: (2)

ive ad all the different ones piper was best 4 me m8

AKRS1

Most popular ive seen is kn although i think pipercross is probably better and cheaper

HybridBly

mine aint built by AVA lol used to have a K&N and went back to standard filter car runs alot colder all a cone does is suck hot air from the engine, each to there own

bassboy

i run a PiperX Vector cone...had a Ram Air one in there first which was god knows howmany years old...noticed a bit of difference with noise but thats it...not going to try standard air box as im going EFI any way...

however

would it make a considerable difference if you boxed off the cone air filter and had its own seperate cold air feed pipe? so not heat soak from the engine?

bassboy

akito-man

ofcourse,clean fresh,oxy,makes a world of difference,

ladies prefer men with big blowers!