fsteward

brought a set of these today ....http://www.burtonpower.com/accralite...cv142-1mm.html
just wondered if these will fit them ebay item number
270998649766

the_frozen_one

iTrader: (1)

Wait till you get your pistons, measure the pins then you'll know for sure

fsteward

good point does any one no where i can get a steel crankshaft apart from burtons

the_frozen_one

iTrader: (1)

Arrow precision do em. Best in the world but very dear.

Please don't take any offense but if you're buying ebay special rods why bother with a steel crank? Standard one rarely break below 300+ anyway

fsteward

what sort of bhp willi get from this with ofab ecu and full race spec head
also what cc will the pistons make the block as the 1mm over bore

the_frozen_one

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1mm over is about 1640.

Ofab will make cock all, you can't get custom chips easily and injector choice is rubbish. You'll struggle to get past 220. And at that level the head is wasted.

What being really horrible, this is what we call 'catalogue tuning' at work, and the only thing it does is empty your pockets and fill part suppliers wallets instead

fsteward

so what would be the best way to go i cant justifie £1500 for cosworth manage ment thats what jamo wants min

the_frozen_one

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Well that's less than the cost of the cranks you were looking at...

But anyway, what car is it? A fiesta rs turbo? Efi converted series 1 or 2?

fsteward

s2 rs turbo on mfi at the mo but converting to efi as i have every thing ?

the_frozen_one

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What power is it running? Have you maxxed the efi out and got bored? Or do you just have an itch for silly power figures?

fsteward

i have the itch for silly power figures
as for the efi i have a complete xr3i engine im starting to build thats what i brought the pistons today for

the_frozen_one

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Have it chipped and set up on mfi, properly by someone you knows there stuff, ht racing at brands, or one of the guys over the dart ford in Essex like grove or oddkidd. A well set up 200hp rs turbo will be very quick indeed, you'll enjoy yourself and it'll cost you less than those pistons

fsteward

i thought mfi was shit ? thats what ive read on the net ?
what diff management idears are there with prices of coarse?

the_frozen_one

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Stop reading the net and drive the car

For less than a grand: tuned mfi which is not as shit as you think.
Over a grand: chipped efi, worse than mfi in my opinion
Over 2 grand: cossie management or full aftermarket.

Seriously though, I have a lovely power engineering chipped ecu out of my old car. Ill post it to you for 75 quid, then you can take your car to have it installed and set up and you'll be happy as a pig in muck

fsteward

is it for efi or mfi ?

the_frozen_one

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Mfi, it's from my first rs turbo

fsteward

to be honest i already have a chipped ecu in my mfi .....but i think ill be changeing the manage ment

fsteward

Megasquirt 2 Standalone Programmable ECU Kit, MS II
how about this then ? ebay item 400368818665 or a piggy back

fsteward

or this Omex 600 Fully Programmable Engine Management System ECU
ebay item 370627835684

simontrayler

Chopshop85

iTrader: (4)

STOP!

Before you buy anything else you need to set yourself a realistic target figure and then talk to someone who has achieved this and get some advice from them.

What power is your car at the moment?

fsteward

its running 165bhp
but i have a new engnie to build efi
brought the steel pistons yesterday
getting the rods in a few weeks then
looking to get a steel crank and then im after a full race head where would be the best place
to get a full race head and what sort of price
camkit i can get cheap as a friend of mine works at kent cams
then i think ill be saving to get a different management
my budeget is around £2500 for the rest of the engine then what ever the manage ment is

Chopshop85

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So what is your target power?
Have you considered it might be worth going to ZVH of Zetec route?
Have you budgeted for necessary big power mods like gearbox, clutch, suspension, brakes?

fsteward

im hopeing to get 250hp-300hp
i have thought about zvh /zetec ect but i want to see what i can get from the cvh as for suspension i have g max all round and brakes im uprating to mondeo ones and its all been polybush too
clucth will be 3 paddle
gearbox i not got that far yet

fsteward

to be honest im beyond bugeting my self so what ever it costs it will just take me a bit longer to get finished

Chopshop85

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Well there are a few people on here that have around the 200+bhp cvh's so I would seek their advise.
Its always better to talk to someone who has done it first as they have been through all the trial and error of certain parts etc.

I have to ask though, why do you want a 300bhp cvh rs turbo?

fsteward

cheers but then u could say why would you want a 300bhp zvh or zectec ?

Chopshop85

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More what I meant was why do you want a mk4 escort with 300bhp?

luke19790_3

Cheaper with a zetec. Parts are newer

luke19790_3

Think you will need bit more then 2500, closer to £6500 for all the parts that you are after

fsteward

rods are £300
crank £1100
flywheel £200
all steel
head £750
cam kit £200 for me !)
clucth £130 paddle thats with my discount
then its bolts gaskets
and s/s manifold £300 =£2980

luke19790_3

Now add the injectors and the ecu And fitting that's a easy 2k

luke19790_3

And a turbo or are you using a std t3

fsteward

well if thats what it costs then
its not like im trowing all the money at it in one hit so i dont mind if it dont come back out this due to engine rebuild then ohwell
but it will be an animal of a cvh right?

fsteward

sorry i ment back out to use this year

fsteward

i guess i could save a few pennys and just have the standered crank polished
what else could be done to the standered crank whats the idear of grinding

fsteward

i guess i could save a few pennys and just have the standered crank polished
what else could be done to the standered crank whats the idear of grinding

davidfox280585

are you winding people up here or what?

the head flow and the ancilliaries are where your power is achieved.
ie injectors ,ecu and mapping
turbo, headflow , intercooler,

the stuff your on about buying will not gain you the power,
200hp is achievable on standard rods and pistons so why not but the ancilliries first then upgrade internals at a later date,
i hope somebody is building this monster for you

fsteward

if you read properly im having a full race head being built
and just ordered a stage 3 turbo
i have a large intercooler my problem will be ecu with ive just been offered a brand new omex 600 from a friend £150 as there skint
im using efi inlet so ill need to look into injectors
and yes ill be building the engine with some help from my friend

davidfox280585

race spec head means nothing to me or many others unless you can define what it actually is,
a chipped ecu on mfi with
a decent stage 3 turbo,
exhaust
front mount cooler
a decent spec cam and a little porting should see you around 190-220 which is more than enough and all for under a grand if you spend wisely
followed by a decent setup will surprise you

if keeping mfi best fit some new injectors or get them tested as mfi injectors arent interchangeable