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Old 03-09-2012, 08:37 AM
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Default cosworth management??

Hey folks just a quick question do the wires on the tps have to be switched around to run a pf09 on l6 management? Cheers alan
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yeah, mine did. Are you running a pectal board and chip for your spec?
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with the loom you have it may not need switching?? You need to check with a wiring diagram what pins go where.
Old 03-09-2012, 10:46 AM
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Yea i has pectak board but also i dunno what chip or if its ment to run the spec of the engine it doesnt start and run without green 803s tho lol
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You have the wrong TPS, L6 requires PF01!

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U cant run pf09 at all?
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Yeah you can run a pf09, thats what mine ran

L6 with pectal board, jano's map PF09 tps
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Not as standard, so you may want to check your ECU/software is modified accordingly, it's certainly not common practice!

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Old 03-09-2012, 04:57 PM
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How can i find out the chip thats in it just now. Its starting to piss me right off now
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I reckon jano is your man for this, he would probably need you to send him your ecu so he can find out whats on the chip.
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You have to open the ECU and visually inspect the chip, if your lucky someone will have wrote information on it, MSD even keep a S/N database as well which is handy, only applicable with there EPROM'S of course.

When you say it has a Pectel board what do you quantify by that, a Pectel board is merely a board to decrypt certain chips so they can be read.

There is another type which adds features, such as 12 position boost etc, but I am pretty sure that you can't use it on the early (2WD) versions of the ECU, like you have.

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I really dont have a clue about pectal board but it has 4 boards 2 big ones and and a 1-cpv2 and a 2-cpv2 i dunno what that is mibby yous will haha
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As said above send it to me and ill check it for you for free.
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Ok jano ill be in touch soon and can you send me a pm with where to send ot and with the info that you need cheers
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From memory the PF01 is open circuit at idle where as the PF09 is not and actually produces a resisted circuit. Without the ECU being calibrated for a PF09 then the ECU will assume you're on throttle all the time.

To run a PF09 on a L6 harness the outer 2 wires need swapping around but that means the L6 ECU won't understand what is going on as the pins on the ECU were configured for a PF01. I don't know if this can be accounted for in the ECU calibration or not to be honest.
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Originally Posted by DazC
From memory the PF01 is open circuit at idle where as the PF09 is not and actually produces a resisted circuit. Without the ECU being calibrated for a PF09 then the ECU will assume you're on throttle all the time.

To run a PF09 on a L6 harness the outer 2 wires need swapping around but that means the L6 ECU won't understand what is going on as the pins on the ECU were configured for a PF01. I don't know if this can be accounted for in the ECU calibration or not to be honest.
Correct, PF01 contains a switch, PF09 does not, at closed throttle it's open circuit, the ECU looks for this signal to activate it's idle and over run strategies, hence why I say it's very strange to have a L6 with PF09, I doubt it can actually work (Unless it's purely software related), despite someone here saying they had it, it does not mean it's right!

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