Turbo just gone pop
#1
Turbo just gone pop
Fucking cars took the Rs out for a drive 2nyt and went to over take some 1 big screech sound no boost then blue smoke any1 no of a good place to get it reconditioned and how much
Last edited by Mark 3D; 09-06-2012 at 10:13 PM.
#2
I haven't used them but I hear good things about
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/
I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/
I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
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#9
http://www.turbodevelopments.co.uk/
They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.
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They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.
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#15
I haven't used them but I hear good things about
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/
I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/
I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
#16
http://www.turbodevelopments.co.uk/
They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.
Ł224 return post.
They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.
Ł224 return post.
Rob,
#17
With the price and the turn around I was impressed. Turbo has been running 14 psi for around 20,000 miles now with no drama at all. (touch wood)
#18
Fitted a second hand turbo brought of rsturbonutter of this site he assured me it was a good 1 fitted it and no boost what so ever and no sound of the turbo spooling up but no smoke or anything any ideas Or as he sold me a fucked turbo
#21
tried it again last night got some boost out of it around 5psi but didnt sound right at all when it did boost and didnt start spooling uo untill i hit 4000 rpm so shortened the bar to give more boost got it to hold around 8psi but struggled again not boosting untill i hit 4000rpm then popped blue smoke out the back then no power and no boost so tied a different actuator and no different id say it was fucked
#23
B4 starting the car we turned the car over wiv coil disconnected untill oil light went out then connected coil started it waited for car to warm up then drove it a couple of mile not using any boost then gradually put the foot down
#24
As I have said on phone mate I can't understand why your turbo just gave up the way it did. You shouldn't just have boost one second and then none at all. Are you 100 percent sure you adjusted the actuator properly and you have no leaks. Anyone else shed any light on this because you can't have boost and then none instantly. The turbo I sold him as covered maybe 2k has no play in it and was holding 17psi all day long. All the wheels are intact and not damaged at all so in theory has to provide boost of some sort. You say you used your brothers actuator aswell what actuator is this because 8psi is about standard is it not. How are you acheiving your higher boost bleed valve or something because your car is chipped. I can't understand this and I think more actuator problem, or boost leak or something for you not to get boost at all all of a sudden.
#25
I no m8 I cant understand it I got 5psi when adjusting actuator the way u said and every1 else wiv my actuator then adjusted it abit more and got 8psi drove it boosted when got to 4000 rpm very laggy then pop from exhaust blue smoke then no boost then tried my bro actuator of his turbo and no difference didn't even boost at all again maybe amel valve I haven't a clue iv asked people in the no and no ideas other than turbo gone
#26
Lets hope you get this other turbo to use off your mate and see whats what because it can't just work then not work. The turbo has no play in it,spins freely and has no damage to it to stop it working how could it just stop providing boos instantly doesn't make sense because even a fucked turbo will not just stop unless the shaft snaps or something. Like I said how are you acheiving this higher boost level of more than 8psi??? Your problem could be amal related or actuator related r bleed valve if everything else is set correctly.
#28
And also do a compression test because you say you was on throttle and then nothing could suggest being piston/ring related with blue smoke
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As I have said on phone mate I can't understand why your turbo just gave up the way it did. You shouldn't just have boost one second and then none at all. Are you 100 percent sure you adjusted the actuator properly and you have no leaks. Anyone else shed any light on this because you can't have boost and then none instantly. The turbo I sold him as covered maybe 2k has no play in it and was holding 17psi all day long. All the wheels are intact and not damaged at all so in theory has to provide boost of some sort. You say you used your brothers actuator aswell what actuator is this because 8psi is about standard is it not. How are you acheiving your higher boost bleed valve or something because your car is chipped. I can't understand this and I think more actuator problem, or boost leak or something for you not to get boost at all all of a sudden.
#30
fooked is a understatement dude i said from the first second its fucked !! boost is irrelevant when the thing sounds like a dry p.a.s pump cause the bearings fuckd n shaft has snapped alot of wasted time and effort and money put my turbo on and hey we have power n no noise
#31
If the shaft was snapped before I gave it him mate I would say fairplay but I had a good look at it all beforte sending it. the wheels moved freely and everything was ok with it. He has obviously over bossted it or something to snap it. And if you read his posts that is exactly what he has been doing shortening the rod etc. Why don't you take a look at the facts mate. first turbo just totally let go which sounds like the shaft snapped ot whatever and then it happened straight away again no chance. I wish people would stop just saying this is fucked or that is fucked. If that shaft was snapped he would never have been able to up the boost it wouldn't provide boost of any sort full stop. The would also be play in the shaft which there was none. There would also have been a shit load of smoke even on tickover which again there was none. I couldn't care too hoots what anyone states online because I know that the turbo's shaft couldn't have been snapped when I gave it to him simple
#32
We didn't over boost it at all we took the actuator that was on my first turbo that was only running 12psi and put it straight on your turbo after speaking to u we adjusted it exactly how u said and the vid u sent and was only running 5psi so shortened it to achieve 8psi and it was smoking like mad on tick over the unit itself looks rusty has hell so must have been left in the damp and something inside must have seized and all iv done is put my brothers turbo on it nd it's fine been driving round all day in it no probs running 15psi no probs
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did u take the exhaut elbow off and check the exhaust wheel ?? there isnt that much play in the the cold side but big movement in the hot side plus the the do not spin together which is why didnt have boost , mats old turbo has not snapped
#34
Yes I took the exhaust elbow off. I thoroughly inspected it before I sent it to him. If you read matts earlier it made a loud pop which was more than likely the shaft snapping due to someone who obviuosly didn't know what he was doing just turning the rod in and out trying to acheive more boost which it did produce. HOW DID IT PRODUCE ANY BOOST AT ALL IF IT WAS SNAPPED.(SIMPLE ANSWER IT WOULDN'T HAVE) Read your own posts matt you said it wasn't smoking. There was no oil in the exhaust side or snail end and there was no movement in that shaft both in and out and up and down was very very minimal. Now a turbo's bearing is not a bearing as such but a floating brass bush which as everyone knows does not rust unless you got some kind of brass that I have never heard of. Stuart you said you fitted another turbo for him and matt said he used his brothers where is the truth in this was it your turbo or his brothers. I bet you fitted this turbo and know slightly more about how they work than matt which obviously didn't know much when it came to preloading the actuator and I reckon it has been overboosted resulting in the shaft snapping.Again read matts posts 'it was boosting then a loud pop and lots of blue smoke' that was when the shaft snapped. Even the priming of the turbo he got wrong. He only primed it until his oil pressure light went out which is nowhere near long enough. The proper way to prime it is disconnect coil or fuel pump fuse with the oil feed not yet connected and turn engine over until the oil starts weeping through. then connect the feed. Continue cranking for a further min or so and that would be sufficent.This is what I think has happenedMatt did not prime the turbo properly went out in it without the wastegate not set properly floored it trying to get boost when the wastegate was open not closed causing the turbo to overboost and stress the shaft. Then he came back adjusted the rod trying to get more boost done exactly the same again and floored it overboostin it again and snapping the shaft. Now I am not dull the turbo would not have produced any boost at all if the shaft was snapped yet alone 8psi and now he is trying to shift blame. I am engineer mate and for a shaft to snap to at only 8psi is bull
Last edited by rsturbonutter; 18-06-2012 at 11:25 AM. Reason: speeling mistake
#39
tbh to me it does sound like an overboost problem, if the old turbo lost boost and the shaft didnt snap then why did it loose boost? also when fitting your brothers turbo what actuator did you use? also i would check your wastegate is mooving freely as if its jammed an wont open this again wont help