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Old 08-06-2012, 09:37 PM
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Default Turbo just gone pop

Fucking cars took the Rs out for a drive 2nyt and went to over take some 1 big screech sound no boost then blue smoke any1 no of a good place to get it reconditioned and how much

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Old 08-06-2012, 10:18 PM
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I haven't used them but I hear good things about

http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/

I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
Old 08-06-2012, 10:29 PM
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how much did u pay for that
Old 09-06-2012, 04:29 AM
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u want the standard t3 off the black 1 mate
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I wouldn't use CR either
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Turbo technics have always served me well
Old 09-06-2012, 10:10 PM
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Turbo rebuild are damn good! Good price and quick turn around!
Old 09-06-2012, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mats1985
how much did u pay for that

From memory about Ł560 with a FREE actuator
Old 09-06-2012, 11:11 PM
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http://www.turbodevelopments.co.uk/

They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.

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Originally Posted by studabear
From memory about Ł560 with a FREE actuator
What turbo was it?
Old 10-06-2012, 05:45 PM
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PM Wilky, he did my last turbo (Stage 4 .48/60) and it's been spot on so far, cost about Ł300 IIRC.
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
What turbo was it?
Stage 2 I think they said, not exactly sure how to tell
Old 10-06-2012, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by studabear
Stage 2 I think they said, not exactly sure how to tell
ahh thats not to bad then. I thought the price seemed pretty steep for a std t3
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I gave them a list of mods I wanted advised by jano, they said thats a stage 2 hybrid in there book, or words to that effect
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Originally Posted by studabear
I haven't used them but I hear good things about

http://www.turborebuild.co.uk/

I used cr turbo's for my last turbo, the turbo is alright but I wasn't happy with the service
I used this company to rebuild my stage 3 t34 took about 2 weeks to turn round and cost me Ł310 all in that included collection and delivery super service top guy would recommend them to anyone
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Originally Posted by Chopshop85
http://www.turbodevelopments.co.uk/

They did my std T3 3 years ago. Told them there was no rush as the whole engine was being rebuilt, still got it back to me in 3 days.

Ł224 return post.
They work in the industrial estate next to mine. Been meaning to pop in for ages now. Every one I talk to says they are spot on.

Rob,
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
They work in the industrial estate next to mine. Been meaning to pop in for ages now. Every one I talk to says they are spot on.

Rob,
Yeah they were really good. Friendly helpful chap on the phone. They even sent me a list of all the things they do to the turbo with some photographs of others they have done, like the cleaning stage, balancing etc so I could see what they were going to do with mine.

With the price and the turn around I was impressed. Turbo has been running 14 psi for around 20,000 miles now with no drama at all. (touch wood)
Old 14-06-2012, 10:18 PM
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Fitted a second hand turbo brought of rsturbonutter of this site he assured me it was a good 1 fitted it and no boost what so ever and no sound of the turbo spooling up but no smoke or anything any ideas Or as he sold me a fucked turbo
Old 14-06-2012, 10:28 PM
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Did you change the actuators over at all, did you set the pre load up I think it's half a moon ( actuator rod half covering the waste gate pin)
Old 14-06-2012, 10:30 PM
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I put my old actuator on the new turbo as it didn't come wiv 1
Old 16-06-2012, 08:14 AM
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tried it again last night got some boost out of it around 5psi but didnt sound right at all when it did boost and didnt start spooling uo untill i hit 4000 rpm so shortened the bar to give more boost got it to hold around 8psi but struggled again not boosting untill i hit 4000rpm then popped blue smoke out the back then no power and no boost so tied a different actuator and no different id say it was fucked
Old 16-06-2012, 10:29 AM
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As my question was deleted on ure other thread i will ask again here, Did you prime the turbo first?
Old 16-06-2012, 10:33 AM
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B4 starting the car we turned the car over wiv coil disconnected untill oil light went out then connected coil started it waited for car to warm up then drove it a couple of mile not using any boost then gradually put the foot down
Old 16-06-2012, 11:42 AM
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As I have said on phone mate I can't understand why your turbo just gave up the way it did. You shouldn't just have boost one second and then none at all. Are you 100 percent sure you adjusted the actuator properly and you have no leaks. Anyone else shed any light on this because you can't have boost and then none instantly. The turbo I sold him as covered maybe 2k has no play in it and was holding 17psi all day long. All the wheels are intact and not damaged at all so in theory has to provide boost of some sort. You say you used your brothers actuator aswell what actuator is this because 8psi is about standard is it not. How are you acheiving your higher boost bleed valve or something because your car is chipped. I can't understand this and I think more actuator problem, or boost leak or something for you not to get boost at all all of a sudden.
Old 16-06-2012, 11:56 AM
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I no m8 I cant understand it I got 5psi when adjusting actuator the way u said and every1 else wiv my actuator then adjusted it abit more and got 8psi drove it boosted when got to 4000 rpm very laggy then pop from exhaust blue smoke then no boost then tried my bro actuator of his turbo and no difference didn't even boost at all again maybe amel valve I haven't a clue iv asked people in the no and no ideas other than turbo gone
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Lets hope you get this other turbo to use off your mate and see whats what because it can't just work then not work. The turbo has no play in it,spins freely and has no damage to it to stop it working how could it just stop providing boos instantly doesn't make sense because even a fucked turbo will not just stop unless the shaft snaps or something. Like I said how are you acheiving this higher boost level of more than 8psi??? Your problem could be amal related or actuator related r bleed valve if everything else is set correctly.
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Check all your boost pipes, does it have dump valve?
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And also do a compression test because you say you was on throttle and then nothing could suggest being piston/ring related with blue smoke

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Originally Posted by rsturbonutter
As I have said on phone mate I can't understand why your turbo just gave up the way it did. You shouldn't just have boost one second and then none at all. Are you 100 percent sure you adjusted the actuator properly and you have no leaks. Anyone else shed any light on this because you can't have boost and then none instantly. The turbo I sold him as covered maybe 2k has no play in it and was holding 17psi all day long. All the wheels are intact and not damaged at all so in theory has to provide boost of some sort. You say you used your brothers actuator aswell what actuator is this because 8psi is about standard is it not. How are you acheiving your higher boost bleed valve or something because your car is chipped. I can't understand this and I think more actuator problem, or boost leak or something for you not to get boost at all all of a sudden.
ive just looked at this turbo u sold matt and its fucked to say least, it dosent make boost cos the shaft has snapped
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Originally Posted by stuart collins
ive just looked at this turbo u sold matt and its fucked to say least, it dosent make boost cos the shaft has snapped
fooked is a understatement dude i said from the first second its fucked !! boost is irrelevant when the thing sounds like a dry p.a.s pump cause the bearings fuckd n shaft has snapped alot of wasted time and effort and money put my turbo on and hey we have power n no noise
Old 17-06-2012, 06:17 PM
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If the shaft was snapped before I gave it him mate I would say fairplay but I had a good look at it all beforte sending it. the wheels moved freely and everything was ok with it. He has obviously over bossted it or something to snap it. And if you read his posts that is exactly what he has been doing shortening the rod etc. Why don't you take a look at the facts mate. first turbo just totally let go which sounds like the shaft snapped ot whatever and then it happened straight away again no chance. I wish people would stop just saying this is fucked or that is fucked. If that shaft was snapped he would never have been able to up the boost it wouldn't provide boost of any sort full stop. The would also be play in the shaft which there was none. There would also have been a shit load of smoke even on tickover which again there was none. I couldn't care too hoots what anyone states online because I know that the turbo's shaft couldn't have been snapped when I gave it to him simple
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We didn't over boost it at all we took the actuator that was on my first turbo that was only running 12psi and put it straight on your turbo after speaking to u we adjusted it exactly how u said and the vid u sent and was only running 5psi so shortened it to achieve 8psi and it was smoking like mad on tick over the unit itself looks rusty has hell so must have been left in the damp and something inside must have seized and all iv done is put my brothers turbo on it nd it's fine been driving round all day in it no probs running 15psi no probs
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did u take the exhaut elbow off and check the exhaust wheel ?? there isnt that much play in the the cold side but big movement in the hot side plus the the do not spin together which is why didnt have boost , mats old turbo has not snapped
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Yes I took the exhaust elbow off. I thoroughly inspected it before I sent it to him. If you read matts earlier it made a loud pop which was more than likely the shaft snapping due to someone who obviuosly didn't know what he was doing just turning the rod in and out trying to acheive more boost which it did produce. HOW DID IT PRODUCE ANY BOOST AT ALL IF IT WAS SNAPPED.(SIMPLE ANSWER IT WOULDN'T HAVE) Read your own posts matt you said it wasn't smoking. There was no oil in the exhaust side or snail end and there was no movement in that shaft both in and out and up and down was very very minimal. Now a turbo's bearing is not a bearing as such but a floating brass bush which as everyone knows does not rust unless you got some kind of brass that I have never heard of. Stuart you said you fitted another turbo for him and matt said he used his brothers where is the truth in this was it your turbo or his brothers. I bet you fitted this turbo and know slightly more about how they work than matt which obviously didn't know much when it came to preloading the actuator and I reckon it has been overboosted resulting in the shaft snapping.Again read matts posts 'it was boosting then a loud pop and lots of blue smoke' that was when the shaft snapped. Even the priming of the turbo he got wrong. He only primed it until his oil pressure light went out which is nowhere near long enough. The proper way to prime it is disconnect coil or fuel pump fuse with the oil feed not yet connected and turn engine over until the oil starts weeping through. then connect the feed. Continue cranking for a further min or so and that would be sufficent.This is what I think has happenedMatt did not prime the turbo properly went out in it without the wastegate not set properly floored it trying to get boost when the wastegate was open not closed causing the turbo to overboost and stress the shaft. Then he came back adjusted the rod trying to get more boost done exactly the same again and floored it overboostin it again and snapping the shaft. Now I am not dull the turbo would not have produced any boost at all if the shaft was snapped yet alone 8psi and now he is trying to shift blame. I am engineer mate and for a shaft to snap to at only 8psi is bull

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Old 18-06-2012, 11:29 AM
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Another question aswell what was wrong with his old turbo then if it just stopped giving boost instantly?????????????????????
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where did i say i fitted another turbo to him ?????, sparks3107 is matts brother
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You did not say that you did fit a turbo for him but he stated in a pm that he was waiting for you to bring one around for him to try
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I was guna use stu spare turbo but used my bro instead
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tbh to me it does sound like an overboost problem, if the old turbo lost boost and the shaft didnt snap then why did it loose boost? also when fitting your brothers turbo what actuator did you use? also i would check your wastegate is mooving freely as if its jammed an wont open this again wont help
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I used same actuator on all the turbos the actuator is spot on as it's realy hard to pull on to the nipple


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