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Old 09-10-2010, 11:12 AM
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Default piper T2 or newman stage 3?
which is best between 240-260? soild lifters? which works best with T34/48 ext/L8?
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Newman,only because im bias!
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Newman,only because im bias!
which one tho? the one that uses soild lifters?
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Yes solid lifters and double valve spring although i was told to not use the double valve springs
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Not to use the double valve springs?did they say why.seems strange.
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its to reduce cam wear ...
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alot of it is also low oil pressure on the head
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what about cat cams?
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Still sounds weird.but ok lol
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i looked earlier on thier web ite and couldn't find a cvh one i have gone kent cvh 35 with a vernier going to stick with hydraulic lifters as i am not planning mega power has anyone else had this kit
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Originally Posted by essexRSTSouthend
Not to use the double valve springs?did they say why.seems strange.
No need, standard springs i hear are fine for 6500rpm, any more spring pressure than necessary (for your rpm limit) and you just pointlessly increase frictional loads and wear.

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well im looking for 7000rpm limit on mine so would the standard springs still be ok
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Im sure what ever spring are supplied with the newmans cam are man enough. Some one like Karlos will be able to tell you.

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ok mate well im gunna get a newman at the end of the month but aint got a clue how to adjust the solid lifters
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I run stock 20 year old springs as instructed by Karl Norris and my limiter was at 7200rpm, did many many runs at that without probs only dropped back to 6600rpm because my T3 runs out of puff long before that, also IIRC Tim runs them at 7800rpm so they will be fine Mark.
Anything heavier and your just wearing away your cam and lifters for no reason, CVH heads have a very heavy valve train and poor lubrication so it's not good at the best of times lol
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Originally Posted by rsmark86
ok mate well im gunna get a newman at the end of the month but aint got a clue how to adjust the solid lifters
Do a search for one of my old threads about Newman cam fitting mate
All you need to know is in there...
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Do a search for one of my old threads about Newman cam fitting mate
All you need to know is in there...
wicked cheers karlos your the man lol.... so i need to buy cam/lifters and tool and ive got the slightly uprated valve springs they used with the power engineering cam which are like standard ones
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Newman sell it all as a kit Mark for Ł300 delivered.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
I run stock 20 year old springs as instructed by Karl Norris and my limiter was at 7200rpm, did many many runs at that without probs only dropped back to 6600rpm because my T3 runs out of puff long before that, also IIRC Tim runs them at 7800rpm so they will be fine Mark.
Anything heavier and your just wearing away your cam and lifters for no reason, CVH heads have a very heavy valve train and poor lubrication so it's not good at the best of times lol
wicked well im so close cant wait to here 7000rpm cvh at 2bar of boost with 4" scorpian tail pipe poping and banging lol
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