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Old 09-04-2010, 10:55 PM
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I've just come back from mapping and hit 150mph in 4th at 7050rpm
Peeking at 26psi and holding about 22ish... drops off a bit as the revs increase, not sure yet if I've reached the limit of my little .36 housing or if I need a bit more preload on the actuator, it's only at 10psi ATM.

But really really pleased, no sign of Det and nothing fell off the car so all good! lol

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150 in 4th looks promising...........
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TBH mate it's fucking scary in a 22year old Cabby!
Thankfully I have good suspension, tyres, and brakes!
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Fookin awesome mate, i'm jealous lol Sounds very good so far, bet you're pleased! At long last mine's coming out the garage tomorrow too to go and get live mapped, want to be hitting 2bar and 7k + by close of play tomorrow all being well
Old 09-04-2010, 11:12 PM
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wicked looks like its going to be a fun summer for everyone as all i need to finish mine is a set of greens and a cosworth tb and then just needs mapping so will go for around 250bhp
Old 09-04-2010, 11:13 PM
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Sweet Dave! I bet you wont sleep tonight, exciting day ahead!!
What is your spec mate, I cant rememeber?
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Nice Mark!
Yeah there should be a few of us kicking around with good figures this year!
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sounds good to me, i did 150mph in my xr2, won't be doing that again on any roads for sure, car was way too light, not quite the same revs as you as i was using diesel gearing on my zvh.
good result pal.
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Sweet Dave! I bet you wont sleep tonight, exciting day ahead!!
What is your spec mate, I cant rememeber?
Ha, yeah you're right, got some interest back at last...oil change in the morning then 11 o clock start for the mapping!
My spec is fairly similar to yours really, in essence:
steel rods/forged pistons (+1mm)
ported head/big valves
newman cam/solids
omex 600
turbo dynamics md02rs t3 (stage 3 t3)
greddy profec b boost controller
cts stage 2 box/cp2000-35 cluch lol

Old engine with standard rods/pistons made 245bhp @1.5 bar on the engine dyno so whilst i don't expect the power to go up much due to not changing the turbo just yet, looking to rev the engine higher to make it more useable and a touch more boost to give it that bit more kick and a dose of torque (and hopefully reliability)! As with yours i'm guessing, pretty much max out whatever it's capable of then can always back the boost off on track days etc if i need to

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Old 10-04-2010, 09:18 AM
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Yeah very similair!
Your turbo is good for 270bhp'ish whereas mine is only good for 240bhp'ish and the rest of your spec good for it too (i'm guessing you have a good IC), so with the right boost and mapping you should see some really good figures!
Let us know how you get on!!

Mine will be mapped to the limit of the turbo and then for daily driving i'll run around a bar, with the extra boost available at the press of a button, should keep it nice and reliable
Old 10-04-2010, 09:25 AM
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Cheers John!

Whats the latest with yours mate? I did comment on your last thread after you smashed the kitchen up! lol
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Oh!
Feel for you mate! Be a shame to sell after all you've put into her..
Old 10-04-2010, 09:48 AM
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it will be your turbo for sure karlos, we have just maxed out your injectors on richies cvh last night at only 1.4 bar.(t34.48)
Old 10-04-2010, 09:51 AM
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Yeah thats what i'm thinking!
Richie did PM to say yesterday... suprised me, must be making good power though, that turbo with his manifolds will flow well!

I have not looked to see what my injector load is yet, i'll have a peek later....
Old 10-04-2010, 09:57 AM
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150mph is scary as fuck in an old Escort isn't it?

But oh such fun
Old 10-04-2010, 10:28 AM
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well done karlos, you must be over the moon!
dave must have at least 280hp there with that spec turbo
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Yeah very similair!
Your turbo is good for 270bhp'ish whereas mine is only good for 240bhp'ish and the rest of your spec good for it too (i'm guessing you have a good IC), so with the right boost and mapping you should see some really good figures!
Let us know how you get on!!

Mine will be mapped to the limit of the turbo and then for daily driving i'll run around a bar, with the extra boost available at the press of a button, should keep it nice and reliable
Intercooler wise GRS mate, no probs with act's!!

SADLY today hasn't gone to plan as i'd have liked (typically) lol but i'm not too downhearted really.

Addressed a few issues that my friend pointed out (spanners out), and he spent a lot of time on idle/low end and off boost fuelling etc as i really want the car driving nicely again so that was good.

The other good news is that the new engine is consuming more air thus needing more fuel everywhere, and that as well as a boost leak he pointed out leads us to think that we really will see some improvements with this engine

That's where the good news ended......started building the revs up and realised that at approx 6.5k a nasty rattle that almost sounds like det appears which i'm 99% sure is valve float, which i think may be the bloody valve springs i changed when the new engine was built.....really kicking myself for listening to David Newman who insisted i should change from the kent springs i'd always used and use their single springs!!!
If it is indeed just that obviously it's not the end of the world but it is a damn pain as all the gear was hooked up to the car and i was hoping to be running full boost by now
What springs are you using Karlos, i remember a thread a while back about them so i'll need to get some more asap!

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Old 10-04-2010, 07:43 PM
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150 mph in 4th gear??? what were you using to measure the speed??
Old 10-04-2010, 07:46 PM
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150mph in a cabby ,your fooking mad karlos lol
Old 10-04-2010, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rstdave
Intercooler wise GRS mate, no probs with act's!!

SADLY today hasn't gone to plan as i'd have liked (typically) lol but i'm not too downhearted really.

Addressed a few issues that my friend pointed out (spanners out), and he spent a lot of time on idle/low end and off boost fuelling etc as i really want the car driving nicely again so that was good.

The other good news is that the new engine is consuming more air thus needing more fuel everywhere, and that as well as a boost leak he pointed out leads us to think that we really will see some improvements with this engine

That's where the good news ended......started building the revs up and realised that at approx 6.5k a nasty rattle that almost sounds like det appears which i'm 99% sure is valve float, which i think may be the bloody valve springs i changed when the new engine was built.....really kicking myself for listening to David Newman who insisted i should change from the kent springs i'd always used and use their single springs!!!
If it is indeed just that obviously it's not the end of the world but it is a damn pain as all the gear was hooked up to the car and i was hoping to be running full boost by now
What springs are you using Karlos, i remember a thread a while back about them so i'll need to get some more asap!
Hmm... yeah not quite what you had hoped for, but very good the your VE has increased as you say should be good power/response gains to be had
I'm using stock Ford springs as advised by Karl Norris when he did my head mate, no probs so far!
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150 mph in 4th gear??? what were you using to measure the speed??
Gearboxman Gear/Speed calculator as pictured below, my rev limiter is set at 7050rpm which we hit in 4th, and they are my ratios and tyre size, speedo was off the clock as you would expect


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150mph in a cabby ,your fooking mad karlos lol
Mate it's a little scary!! TBH the whole car is fucking dangerous, if you drop it down from say 5th to 3rd and boot it the torque steer is just incredible, pulls you all over the road, i'm almost worried about overtaking incase my car pulls me into the side of the car i'm passing!! lol
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Hmm... yeah not quite what you had hoped for, but very good the your VE has increased as you say should be good power/response gains to be had
I'm using stock Ford springs as advised by Karl Norris when he did my head mate, no probs so far!

Gearboxman Gear/Speed calculator as pictured below, my rev limiter is set at 7050rpm which we hit in 4th, and they are my ratios and tyre size, speedo was off the clock as you would expect



Mate it's a little scary!! TBH the whole car is fucking dangerous, if you drop it down from say 5th to 3rd and boot it the torque steer is just incredible, pulls you all over the road, i'm almost worried about overtaking incase my car pulls me into the side of the car i'm passing!! lol
Yes, at least one positive to come out of today regarding the ve, in fairness these things happen and tbh i just wish i'd followed my instincts and left it alone!
Did you buy the springs from ford, just asking for rst valve springs yeah? I hope that's all it is as never had an issue before whatsoever!
Yours sounds like you're getting the best out of it now too mate, they do pull so strongly once you get up above 20psi don't they, mine even on the 1.2bar it's now mapped at up to 6k feels really strong
Old 10-04-2010, 08:29 PM
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I used the old springs that were in my head, Karl said thats best as they are plenty heavy enough to close the valves and will not wear the cam out too fast.
I think I am getting the best out of it mate, it pulls well from 2500rpm right the way to 7050rpm!
My turbo is flat out I think, and even if it's not my injectors are at 90% duty so cant fuel for anymore now safely anyway lol
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Cool, a nice big powerband too, that's what we want
I imagine if you haven't got the bigger exhaust housing then it will indeed be on its knees at that boost and that rpm, i was a bit sceptical about whether mine will be up to it tbh but yours sounds like it's doin well!
What injectors are you using?
Looks like i may have to have an ask around about the valve springs, don't really wanna be fitting another set that aren't up to high rpm, can't bloody find the old ones either lol
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lol Nightmare! I'm sure someone will have a set on here.
No, I'm only on a .36 exhaust housing, and a 55trim comp wheel, using VXR 480cc injectors, what are you using?
With your T3 you should do really well, although a little laggier than mine you'll have bigger balls flat out! lmao
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Looking forward to seeing all these BIG cars out on the strip/runway this year. Sounds like the year that some records will get broken.
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i fought to get that speed you would need 280+?
good on you, wouldnt like doing that speed in my frst
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sounds like a bit of a handfull now karlos cant wait to see it go are you taking it down the strip on central day?
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Looking forward to seeing all these BIG cars out on the strip/runway this year. Sounds like the year that some records will get broken.
You wont see mine down the strip but you will see it on your rollers!
I'll be calling up in the next week or so to book 4 maybe 5 of us in for power runs mate! Just got one more car to finish mapping
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i fought to get that speed you would need 280+?
good on you, wouldnt like doing that speed in my frst
No idea mate but thats what it did! lol
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sounds like a bit of a handfull now karlos cant wait to see it go are you taking it down the strip on central day?
No mate, strictly road use only I dont want to break it!
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yeah i know what you mean would be a shame to break it after all the work you put into it.
Whats next on the list tuning list then?
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Nothing mate, for more power I would need to go bigger on the turbo exhaust housing, that will give me more lag which I dont want and i'd need a stronger gearbox (well might do anyway ).
So it's finished really, see what it makes on the rollers just out of interest, drive it and enjoy it!
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great news Karlos, sounds very promising for when you get it on some rollers
shame about yours dave, at least its only a small issue though i'm sure you'll have it sorted i no time
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
lol Nightmare! I'm sure someone will have a set on here.
No, I'm only on a .36 exhaust housing, and a 55trim comp wheel, using VXR 480cc injectors, what are you using?
With your T3 you should do really well, although a little laggier than mine you'll have bigger balls flat out! lmao
I'm actually using standard evo 7 injectors (modified the rail), which iirc are 560cc, so should be plenty for me, and they're cheap to get hold of!
Mine is indeed a little laggier than yours from what you've said, though the new engine does seem less laggy if anything, was on full chat by 3,500rpm which i wasn't disappointed with but i'll have to wait a bit longer to see the end result.

Christian.....don't know about BIG cars, certainly in the case of mine/karlos's as they're not really at the spec level to break records lol but i know what you're saying i too will be interested to see how some of the others being finished now will get on

Chris.....yeah was a bit hacked off but these things happen, hopefully it is only the valve springs at fault.
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Full boost by 3500rpm is fine mate!!
Mine varies depending on load and gear from 3000rpm-3300rpm but i'm talking 26psi! Always Makes 10psi by about 2500rpm which is nice and early
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Thats mad karlos! I wanna do 150 in mine, but it must be a proper twitchy chocolate starfish time! When I maxed mine one night it when off the clocks, so reading 140+ on the clocks so I guessed at something like 130ish. after i did it I pulled in to a lay-by for a fag to let my ass recover. Ive been a supa at nearly 160 and that wasnt half as scary!
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TBH I was concentrating on listening for Det and looking at my laptop screen more than the road!
It felt like I was in a bobsled when we cornered (by cornered I mean slight bends in the road!), just being thrown left to right but felt really solid if you know what I mean?! lol


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sounds scary karlos carnt wait to get mine going now wont be long
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
TBH I was concentrating on listening for Det and looking at my laptop screen more than the road!
It felt like I was in a bobsled when we cornered (by cornered I mean slight bends in the road!), just being thrown left to right but felt really solid if you know what I mean?! lol

i hope you wasent driving and looking at the laptop lol
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sound good.get some vids up


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