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Old 29-03-2010, 08:18 PM
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Default stage 3 t3 or t34 what would be better

what would be a better turbo at around 250bhp .

ive got a stage3 t3 on a autospecialists manifold at the mo.

but have been offered a custom manifold that looks real trick it puts the turbo above the gearbox and is fitted with a t34 turbonectics turbo for a good price.

but would need to sell mine to get it realy.
Old 29-03-2010, 08:33 PM
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is it 1600cvh? If it is IMO the t34 will still be a lag monster on that manifold. The t3 stage 3 will easily cope with 250 bhp.
Old 29-03-2010, 08:38 PM
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Heard the t34 on the 1.6 cvh are really laggy sticl with what you got
Old 29-03-2010, 08:50 PM
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ok i think thats best then thanks guys as mine is brand new anyway but just thought if i had it know its there for when i want some more power .

would it be hard to put antilag on it as i have gotech management ect
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You won't want to run any serious antilag on your t3 if you want it to last more than 5 minutes really as the heat will kill it, unless you happen to have a maram shafted one?!! My last engine ran a healthy 245bhp on basically a stage 3 t3 at 1.5 bar, ideal for that power level imo without being overly laggy. T34 will have more grunt at the top end if that's your thing but probably not quite as driveable as the t3 in reality.
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mine is on a t34 and there is no real lag swapped over from standard turbo to this one and the lag is pretty similar but when it does come in then you really notice it and as when your giving it some stick you always change gear and end up back in power band again so straight to boost but mine is on a tubular manifold and avoid anti lag with what you got
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Originally Posted by project rs
mine is on a t34 and there is no real lag swapped over from standard turbo to this one and the lag is pretty similar but when it does come in then you really notice it and as when your giving it some stick you always change gear and end up back in power band again so straight to boost but mine is on a tubular manifold and avoid anti lag with what you got

this is why i asked as i have the following spec

gotech mfi and braided loom
power engineering stage 3 big valve head and hi lift cam (but going newman with solid lifters)
arp stud and nut kit with genuine ford head gasket
fully lightened and balanced bottom end and fly wheel
pec steel rods
wozsner low comp forged pistons
acl bearings
custom field motorsport inlet and custom billet fuel rail
dark green 803 injectors
airtech front mount and radiator
airtech breather kit
autospecialists stainless manifold
stage3 t3
ap paddle clutch

so was wondering wether a tubular manifold and t34 would be ok or keep my turbo and manifold
Old 30-03-2010, 06:07 AM
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keep your bits what you have now,
thats a nice spec
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Originally Posted by jonny s2
keep your bits what you have now,
thats a nice spec
cool will do mate but i want a jamsport manifold as they look the nuts

and i can later fit the t34 if i wanted
Old 30-03-2010, 09:16 AM
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Wait and if you want to change then go gt28 or gt30 turbo mate
Old 30-03-2010, 12:29 PM
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If you only want 250@fly then get the smallest turbo that will flow enough, keeping lag to a minimum!
So a Stage 3 T3 would probably be the one or if your feeling flush a nice GT28rs
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
If you only want 250@fly then get the smallest turbo that will flow enough, keeping lag to a minimum!
So a Stage 3 T3 would probably be the one or if your feeling flush a nice GT28rs
yeh im looking for 250bhp then i need to get a box for it then later on i would love to get high 200s sort of 280/290bhp but that will come later

i was thinking about this manifold and turbo as it looks the tits but if it drives like shit then it aint worth it
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stock mannys are spot on
get a pic up of this naughty looking manny???
personally i would be looking for a suitable gearbox as you already have a decent turbo rated to around 280hp
Old 30-03-2010, 03:48 PM
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as above too, spend the wonga on a decent gearbox setup, i've trashed way too many bc boxes now and planning the mtx75 route now.
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it would seem your t3 stg3 is laggier than my t34 then but i'm of the belief that my ex manny is helping with response but no real proof only it seems to pull well from lower than everyone was expecting
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surely with a good mapper you could dial some of the lag out
its in the map
Old 30-03-2010, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by project rs
it would seem your t3 stg3 is laggier than my t34 then but i'm of the belief that my ex manny is helping with response but no real proof only it seems to pull well from lower than everyone was expecting
yours is just just a well spec'd engine mate . same as my old cvh and that had a stg3 t3 and full boost by 2600rpm.
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you dont want a gt28 ,stay with the t3.
Old 30-03-2010, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by crazycage
you dont want a gt28 ,stay with the t3.
Why's that, will it not flow enough on a 1.6?
Oh BTW nice to see your motor in FF this month!
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im gunna keep the t3 for now and get an ib5 or similar as s1john said its a good conversion with a good ratio ect. and i want a b+m quickshift and still got to fit my cossie 4 pots ect so still got shit loads to do.
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if your at central day i'll have a brand new b&m with me i'll be selling at the show with a few of my other bits that i don't need with the 6 speeder
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Originally Posted by project rs
if your at central day i'll have a brand new b&m with me i'll be selling at the show with a few of my other bits that i don't need with the 6 speeder
how much mate as mine is like a dick in a bucket lol
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

i know its ended but this is the manifold and turbo ive been looking at and will come as a complete bolt on package with hoses bleed valve and down pipe ect
Old 30-03-2010, 09:45 PM
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Bin the stud and nut kit mate and get standard ford bolts
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i'd save your money and wait till something needs changing as you've got plenty more horses to come first and am not a gold member so can't sell on here just letting people know that i'll have some stuff with me at central
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
Why's that, will it not flow enough on a 1.6?
Oh BTW nice to see your motor in FF this month!
no just that the t3 will do that power, spool pretty good there cheap and you can get them rebuilt ect .

so you worked out it was mine lol .
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im sticking with the t3 for now and later when my gearbox and the rest of the car is up to scratch i want a big manifold and rollerbearing ect.....
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Originally Posted by crazycage
no just that the t3 will do that power, spool pretty good there cheap and you can get them rebuilt ect .

so you worked out it was mine lol .
Yes mate, wasnt hard with the list of mods and references to Rick mapping it etc.. lol
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