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Hi all im currently in the process of building a Mk4 Escort track car and need advice on the brakes. I have purchased some saph cos 4x4 calipers which are in the process of a refurb at Bigg Red and i need advice on Discs, Pads and Braided Hoses. I was going to go with EBC Discs and Red Stuff pads but after reading a few threads on here ive been put off this idea.
If anyone can lend advice on where i can get these parts and how much i would be most appreciative lol
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Standard discs from a motorfactors and spend the money on a set of ferodo DS2500 pads....use mine pretty regularly on track and can't fault that combination to be fair!
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Yeh im looking on there website now and ive a heard good things about Ferodo on the forum and they come in at £106.50 for the DS2500 and the discs are near enough £200 which is a bit to pricey for me as im a student and im tryin to keep costs down cos im on budget which i know usually spells disaster but bare with me here lol
Would standard non drilled or grooved discs be acceptable for moderate track use or would i realli need the uprated items. Also ive heard good things about Mintex 1144's and they come in at a shade under £60 which sounds gd value to me.
Would standard non drilled or grooved discs be acceptable for moderate track use or would i realli need the uprated items. Also ive heard good things about Mintex 1144's and they come in at a shade under £60 which sounds gd value to me.
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Can't remember what make they were off hand mate, just a local motorfactors i used, 'APD' i think it was, don't think they're nationwide though! I found that i eventually warped the discs after a couple of seasons of heavy track use, but up until then they worked spot on with the expensive pads! Replaced them with another fresh set of discs/pads and fine again, i'm not saying expensive drilled/grooved discs etc may be a little better but myself and a friend of mine have always used that combo and can't see the need to spend all that extra money
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Yeh that sounds good to me im not to worried about wearing them out as i will probably change them round every year or so anyway but knowing they will last that length of time is reassuring.
I think i'll go with some Mintex M1144 pads and some OEM replacement discs. Graham Goode does a set of a standard replacements so i might have to give them a call for a price otherwise a couple of other guys seem to have gone for a company called Delphi and they are cheap at around £70.
Thanks for the advice mate much appreciated.
I think i'll go with some Mintex M1144 pads and some OEM replacement discs. Graham Goode does a set of a standard replacements so i might have to give them a call for a price otherwise a couple of other guys seem to have gone for a company called Delphi and they are cheap at around £70.
Thanks for the advice mate much appreciated.
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depends on how much power your planningh on pushing out matey
ive got focus rs brakes on my st170 and its alll standard did mine for show use if your gonna push loads of power out please upgrade your brakes no matter what the cost is as you will regret it when you see the tyre wall approaching you at 100mph
ive got focus rs brakes on my st170 and its alll standard did mine for show use if your gonna push loads of power out please upgrade your brakes no matter what the cost is as you will regret it when you see the tyre wall approaching you at 100mph
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The Mintex 1144 is not usable on the track! I had them on my S1 and they are just a fast road pad. Completely faded away in just two laps. Extremely good pad for everyday use though. Mintex has the 1155 which is for thougher use, but I haven't heard much of it.
Invest in some good known track pads and new brake fluid. Discs are very secondary. The grooves and holes do very little in the end.
Invest in some good known track pads and new brake fluid. Discs are very secondary. The grooves and holes do very little in the end.
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Using the 4x4 Cosworth calipers is a direct "plug'n'play" combination with 2wd Cosworth 283mm discs in an RST. These are pretty much the biggest discs that fit under 15" wheels that you probably want to use in track use.
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Ok so Ferodo DS2500 Pads seem to be the way to go with what im looking for and the Mintex M1155's are practically the same in price so i will go with the soughtafta and tried and tested example.
What about discs though? How much can i expect to pay for a set of OE Replacement Discs and where can i get them from and what make are known to be of good quality. Will be ordering the parts within the week so dont wanna grab the wrong stuff.
What about discs though? How much can i expect to pay for a set of OE Replacement Discs and where can i get them from and what make are known to be of good quality. Will be ordering the parts within the week so dont wanna grab the wrong stuff.
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For fast road use on the RST I have a set of 2wd OEM disks (Delphi) and 4x4 calipers with DS2000 pads, a very good combo indeed. For track though the DS2500's will be the better option, just need warming up a little more than the DS2000's.
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In essence im trying to source the best parts for the job without having to go over the top with expensive parts which realli arnt necessary.
These Delphi OEM Replacements keep popping up in conversation so i might have to give them a try its just where do i get them and what sort of price am i looking to pay. Ferodo DS2500 definately seem to be the pads to go for in the interest of moderate track usage.
Cheers for all your help guys much appreciated
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Yeh its looking like i will be going with 2WD Delphi discs and the Ferodo pads are £100 or so on Burton Power i just cant find anywhere that supply the discs lol
Graham Goode sells OEM replacement discs so im gonna give him a call to ask what brand he uses and what price he sells them for im trusting his judgement on the matter cos he knows his stuff.
Graham Goode sells OEM replacement discs so im gonna give him a call to ask what brand he uses and what price he sells them for im trusting his judgement on the matter cos he knows his stuff.
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mate you can also try black diamond disc which i have used many times with different pads and allways found them good. or the oem discs are good too as long as you have decent pads like ferrodo ds 2500 or mintex do a specific track pad aswell.
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