What do you think the power is?
30-10-2009, 09:45 PM
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What do you think the power is?
i know its been asked a berzillion times before, but i've only just got the car and love it to bits.
well so far we've worked out the spec to this:
rebulit bottom end, standard as far as we know
stage 3 head, unsure of the cam, haven't taken the cover off to check it yet. bigger valves, 3 angle seats, ported and polished
stage 1 turbo unsure of internals
-31 collins actuator
2.5" bore scorpion exhaust
ram air cone
uprated intercooler
uprated rad
hi pressure oil pump
piston dump valve (the fella anit sure bout this!)
20 PSI, peak, 18 held, oh one thing at 4500, it really takes off
ahmed bayoo chip, really unsure about the chip, are these live mapped?
i think thats about it, please feel free to discuss amongst yourselfs
well so far we've worked out the spec to this:
rebulit bottom end, standard as far as we know
stage 3 head, unsure of the cam, haven't taken the cover off to check it yet. bigger valves, 3 angle seats, ported and polished
stage 1 turbo unsure of internals
-31 collins actuator
2.5" bore scorpion exhaust
ram air cone
uprated intercooler
uprated rad
hi pressure oil pump
piston dump valve (the fella anit sure bout this!)
20 PSI, peak, 18 held, oh one thing at 4500, it really takes off
ahmed bayoo chip, really unsure about the chip, are these live mapped?
i think thats about it, please feel free to discuss amongst yourselfs
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30-10-2009, 10:07 PM
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i would say 190-200bhp,although if youre bottom end and cam are standard,then if it is a genuine stage 3 head it will be lagging your engine and you wont be making that power.if it is stage 3 and cammed then your turbo will probably be holding you back
30-10-2009, 11:02 PM
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so isn't this a so called stage 3, with escort waste gate?
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30-10-2009, 11:42 PM
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take it to a tuner,dont touch boost yourself,it will need fuelling checked,and i very much doubt youd get 18psi preload from the actuator,it will need bleed valve or amal valve rejetting
30-10-2009, 11:50 PM
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31-10-2009, 12:15 AM
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and i dont take name calling well all a bleed valve is is a manual boost controller like an amal valve.if ur using a 10psi(-31) actuator then you bleed the rest of via a bleed valve or rejetting the amal valve.
31-10-2009, 12:23 AM
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thought a bleed valve was used when you turn the boost up to fool the ecu into thinking its still running standard pressure.basically u had it if you couldnt afford a chip.and hostility came from youre comment on the manifold thread.
31-10-2009, 12:28 AM
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ok Gentlemen, please don't fight on behalf of little old me!
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted"
power?
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted"
power?
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31-10-2009, 12:30 AM
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there was no hostility from me mate,its was a simple discussion,the internets full of them
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31-10-2009, 12:32 AM
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ok Gentlemen, please don't fight on behalf of little old me!
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted" power?
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted"
power?
I would say 18 holding 200hp or about's
Take her to the RR 50quid and make sure the fuel and everything is ok mind
31-10-2009, 12:32 AM
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ok Gentlemen, please don't fight on behalf of little old me!
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted" power?
thanks S1john the way it really bites down at 4500 does suggest to the boy friend a piper 285T2, he had one in his car (with a "dash" bleed valve for the wet, ahem)
so with all the mods listed in the opening post, would this make much differnce to the "predicted"
power?pop the dizzy off,should have 285t2 stamped if it is.5 min job
31-10-2009, 09:32 AM
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Stage 1 T3
Power output 130-180 BHP
Boost 8-18 PSI
7° cutback turbine assembly
270° screwed thrust bearing
You can get 18psi prelaod from a -31 actuator but better to preload @10psi and then bleed around 8psi (or whatever your tuner says is best for your engine/setup)
Bleed valve, or a proper boost controller to adjust the boost is still needed unless you do it all on the actuator as above.
As JamboRST said, yes it is but a in car one is crap and will give a very unresponsive turbo because of the length of the hose your running into the car and back out again, the closer the bleed valve to the turbo/actuator the better.
the ecu gets it reading from the inlet manifold which would still be seeing 10+psi.the bleed valves takes away the advantages the amal valve of controlling things if its senses probs,be it overboost of high acts.but time the amal valve does anything its usually too late anyway.bleed valves are safe if left untouched when set,same as actuators shouldnt be messed with either as has the same outcome of fiddling with bleed valves
there was no hostility from me mate,its was a simple discussion,the internets full of them
there was no hostility from me mate,its was a simple discussion,the internets full of them
I would recommend leaving the Amal valve inline with the bleed so the ECU has at least some control if it detects high ACT's etc..
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31-10-2009, 04:13 PM
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well gents, we've had the dizzy off, and had a good look in
no markings on the cam end
what about if we took the cam belt cover off, (its clutching at straws) and there was a vernier, would this suggest what the cam was ie, kent verniers only fit kent cams, vice versa with piper, know it sounds a bit naive
no markings on the cam end
what about if we took the cam belt cover off, (its clutching at straws) and there was a vernier, would this suggest what the cam was ie, kent verniers only fit kent cams, vice versa with piper, know it sounds a bit naive
31-10-2009, 07:18 PM
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oh, one other thing, there was the smallest of amount of oil in the dizzy, and an even smaller amount in the dizzy cap itself
has anyone got any tips to stop that bloodly stoopid black thing to stay in place whilst you fit the dizzy cap back
?????
has anyone got any tips to stop that bloodly stoopid black thing to stay in place whilst you fit the dizzy cap back
?????
31-10-2009, 07:20 PM
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Cut back thrust bearing???
Stage 1 T3
Power output 130-180 BHP
Boost 8-18 PSI
7° cutback turbine assembly
270° screwed thrust bearing
Do exactly that!
You can get 18psi prelaod from a -31 actuator but better to preload @10psi and then bleed around 8psi (or whatever your tuner says is best for your engine/setup)
Stage 1 T3
Power output 130-180 BHP
Boost 8-18 PSI
7° cutback turbine assembly
270° screwed thrust bearing
Do exactly that!
You can get 18psi prelaod from a -31 actuator but better to preload @10psi and then bleed around 8psi (or whatever your tuner says is best for your engine/setup)
01-11-2009, 11:19 AM
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using receipts etc and ducking out in the breaks of the appauling weather, we've revised the spec to this:
rebulit bottom end, standard
stage 3 head, bigger valves, 3 angle seats, ported and polished
pretty certain its a standard cam, though we're unsure why they've done all the mods on the head, and not changed the cam.
We'll have a proper look under the rocker, when its drier
stage 1 turbo (turbo technics)
-31 collins actuator
2.5" bore scorpion exhaust
ram air cone
uprated large Pace intercooler
uprated radtec rad
hi pressure oil pump, we've got a reciept for this, but from what we've worked out from your help on our other posts , we don't think its been fitted, though we don't have it in our mitts!
Bailys oil sepeartor
silcon hoses, boost, oil and water, all in red, so this took a bit to work out where they all went
piston dump valve (the fellas still unsure bout this!)
20 PSI, peak, 18 held,
ahmed bayoo chip, still unsure about this chip?
rebulit bottom end, standard
stage 3 head, bigger valves, 3 angle seats, ported and polished
pretty certain its a standard cam, though we're unsure why they've done all the mods on the head, and not changed the cam.
We'll have a proper look under the rocker, when its drier
stage 1 turbo (turbo technics)
-31 collins actuator
2.5" bore scorpion exhaust
ram air cone
uprated large Pace intercooler
uprated radtec rad
hi pressure oil pump, we've got a reciept for this, but from what we've worked out from your help on our other posts , we don't think its been fitted, though we don't have it in our mitts!
Bailys oil sepeartor
silcon hoses, boost, oil and water, all in red, so this took a bit to work out where they all went
piston dump valve (the fellas still unsure bout this!)
20 PSI, peak, 18 held,
ahmed bayoo chip, still unsure about this chip?
its lovely and drivable!
with ahmed chips, are they off the shelf for RSTs?
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