EssexMikeSi

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Im not sure what to do really, my cars loom has had loads of repairs etc and a old alarm removed, a new one put in, then that was messing up as hadnt been installed properly. The loom iswhat lets down a otherwise fully restored car. What do u reckon i should do? Cut out the repairs and wire in new bits of wire? try holding out for a good loom 2nd hand (could be crap stil). Its really annoying me, tried getting the car goin on saturday but having various electrical problems, things not working etc.

Turbocabbie

Get a new loom made, talk to Ryan on here

EssexMikeSi

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Yeah i would like a new loom but i can imagine one is going to cost hundreds as there are so many wires. Must be looking at a good £600+ surely.

Turbocabbie

I paid a hell of a lot less than that, think I paid around 300 quid, its worth the money for piece of mind and you get a braided loom which you know has not been chopped around

EssexMikeSi

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Ah excellent news, i'll pm him soon then, cheers mate, yeah that would be great for peace of mind, a massive illimination when your having troubles with anything electrical related.

grsford

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£300 for a full car loom on mfi managment? are you sure

its about £350 for a cossie engine bay loom

Karlos G

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I doubt it's full car loom, probably just engine bay.

RS Juto

To be honest mate if you are buying second hand dont bother, it just isnt worth the risk. I have spent all weekend rewiring and escort cossy for a customer and if you know what you are doing and have the correct kit its just a matter of time. Im an electrical designer for a major OEM so its easy for me and i have all the kit. If you yourself know you stuff give it a go, however if you are short on electrical knowledge you could end up with a whole load of problems so be careful. I see so many burn outs and meltdowns though the lack of knowledge and understanding its untrue.

Hope this helps in some way

Turbocabbie

yea engine loom for cossie management, the rest of the loom is easy to sort out imho

grsford

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completley different to what he wanted though

all wiring looms can be sorted out easily the main problem is melted fuse boxes imo connectors can be found from cars in the local scrap yard etc

personally i would find another loom get it in the garage lay it out and check all connectors look good remove any crap that has been added solder any joints to a high standard and heat shrink sleving over any connection etc, sort it out to a standard your happy with and then install in your own car could have the new loom in within a few hours

StephenC

The engine loom is the part that is going to affect the running of the car, that and the fuel pump wiring. Run a new feed to a new fuel pump relay and drive the relay from the original fuel pump relay. If your half decent with wiring you should be able to split the engine loom from the rest (think theres about 5 wires that actually pass into the cabin) and make a new one up, Im in the process of doing mine as 19 year old wire isnt what it used to be!

RS Juto

Theres a lot more to it than that On what basis are you comparing the standard to, also what about the resistance / impedance / work hardening deterioration in electrical capacity, calculation for additional loading ie high current fuel pumps etc

Im not being funny mate but melted fuse boxes and are only the problem you can see and yes they can be changed. Its the problems you can't see. The car is an old car (no disrespect) and cable breaks down adding to this a load of messers modifying it to a poor standard..... One result Fire

Better buy a fire extinguisher

grsford

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so what are you suggesting doing? as in the real world no one is going to test the resistance of each individual wire on the loom to test to see if its deteriorated so all you can do is fisically inspect it to the best of your ability,i personally dont no of any rst owner that would fork out for a specialist to build them a new loom, so what else can you do?

not once did he say he required any additional current carrying capacity on any of the circuit

RS Juto

All i was saying it is not as easy as you are making out, yes in the real world perhaps he isn't going to test the resistance and he may not need a new loom but to do things correctly this is what he should do and i don't think my answer warranted you hostile response. For instance testing the resistance can tell many storys with a cossie as underload they breakdown and cause major issues. I know its an RST and dependant on the amount of issues that is what he may have to do.

As for what i can do i dont want to bore you with the details...... and finaly as previously mentioned i am a specialist in this field and all i was offering was advice, i thought that was what he asked for and that what passionford was about

Think i will stick to the cossie room in future

grsford

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sorry if you thought my responce was a hostile one as it was ment in that context,

i was just trying to offer the easyest bit of advice i could with suggesting a new loom and starting from there as we all no trying to sort it out in situ is very difficult,and at least out of the car you can strip iot back and make the best out of an bad situation, hth

RS Juto

Apology accepted ,

Yes the loom really needs to come out for a full inspection and go from there I suppose, Its scary what people actually do with there wiring tbh, the amount of alarms i have had to refit after they have been installed by a thatcham approved installer is no joke. If it wasn't that far away i would lend a hand if needed but hes 4 hours away from me