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Old 02-06-2008, 09:52 PM
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Hej All,

Has anyone got a sparktable suitable ( 12x12 ) for my 2.0 zvh engine on efi..

Should be for 0-6500 rpm and about 0-200 kpa ( 14 psi )

I'm having some bad misfires above 5000 rpm so hopefully anyone has a basic sparktable for me to work from..

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Old 02-06-2008, 10:22 PM
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You could try something like this... figures for each corner of the table..

9---14
| .. |
18--30

.. and fill in the gaps (interpolate smoothly).. assuming the top line is 200kpa..
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This might be a start:
Old 03-06-2008, 12:30 PM
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Thanks again, JesseT

I'll give it a go this afternoon..
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Don't mention it!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Don't mention it!!!!!!!!
Why bother eh?
Old 03-06-2008, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
You could try something like this... figures for each corner of the table..

9---14
| .. |
18--30

.. and fill in the gaps (interpolate smoothly).. assuming the top line is 200kpa..
Hej Pa sjo,

Didn't see your reply at first....

Thanks.

The general idea is clear to me.

I'll try somthing later today

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Well, tried several tables but it doesn't go above 5300 rpm.
After that it sputters and doesn't revv any higher like it's going in the revv limit, wich is set at 6600 at the moment...
should be another problem then
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What plugs/gap/boost?

There are a few settings in megatune that could be causing this.. you can send me your msq if you want.
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
What plugs/gap/boost?

There are a few settings in megatune that could be causing this.. you can send me your msq if you want.
Hej Mate,

Plugs are ngk with standard gap.
Same one as i had with mfi just new, worked fine for it then @ 12 psi

Boost is 200 kpa ( 14 psi ) max for now but it doesn't matter what boost i run.

Had the same problem today with about 150 kpa ( 7 psi ) at 5300 rpm.

It would be great if you had a look at my msq, thanks.
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Are you using a 36-1 or 62-2 trigger wheel by any chance?

If so, it sounds like your VR snesor to wheel clearance may be a bit big - try decreasing the gap. I know the EDIS manuals say <1mm but it really needs to be less than 0.5mm on an MS install.

Also, how many turns do you have on your VR pots?

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Originally Posted by CombatSapph
Are you using a 36-1 or 62-2 trigger wheel by any chance?

If so, it sounds like your VR snesor to wheel clearance may be a bit big - try decreasing the gap. I know the EDIS manuals say <1mm but it really needs to be less than 0.5mm on an MS install.

Also, how many turns do you have on your VR pots?
Hi,

Tried to set the vr pots at any way but didn't work.

The ZVH has been converted to Full zetec turbo now and i'm mapping it at the moment.
Still issues with revs but when i rev it in neutral it goes well above 6000 rpm without problems so have to finetune it a little
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Jesse's table is too advanced for a 16v - be aware of that.
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Originally Posted by Rick
Jesse's table is too advanced for a 16v - be aware of that.

Hi Rick,

What do you reccon it should be for a 16v then ... thougt 12 on full ( 250 kpa ) boost @ 6500 rpm would be ok?

Thanks
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Still issues with revs but when i rev it in neutral it goes well above 6000 rpm without problems
Classic symptom of the VR pots being wrong and the VR sensor gap to big on a Megasquirt install.

Turn the VR pots fully anticlockwise and make the VR sensor gap to 0.5mm or less.
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Originally Posted by CombatSapph
Classic symptom of the VR pots being wrong and the VR sensor gap to big on a Megasquirt install.

Turn the VR pots fully anticlockwise and make the VR sensor gap to 0.5mm or less.
Turned the pots all arround at the time... thing is... when it's in neutral it revs above 6000 nicely.
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when it's in neutral it revs above 6000 nicely
Which, as I said, is a symptom of the VR sensor gap being too big.
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Originally Posted by CombatSapph
Which, as I said, is a symptom of the VR sensor gap being too big.
Well i'll give it a try getting it closer but i don't understand what's the difference between revving in neutral or when driving when we're looking at VR sensor and how close it is?
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Originally Posted by Gregor
Hi Rick,

What do you reccon it should be for a 16v then ... thougt 12 on full ( 250 kpa ) boost @ 6500 rpm would be ok?

Thanks
It is, but you have 20 degrees at 1 bar which is likely going to be too much unless you are under 8:1?

Post a data log of your issue, along with your MSQ and i'll take a look.

Rick.
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Originally Posted by Rick
It is, but you have 20 degrees at 1 bar which is likely going to be too much unless you are under 8:1?

Post a data log of your issue, along with your MSQ and i'll take a look.

Rick.
OK, I haven't used that map but one of my one but was gonna try it.

CR is 8.5:1

I'll post a data log along with my msq asap.

Did a run today but on two ocasions th injectors were closed fully but you'll see it in the msq.

Also it's far to rich on boost... well anyway, i'll post it tonight.
Would be great if you would have a look at it.
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Originally Posted by Rick
It is, but you have 20 degrees at 1 bar which is likely going to be too much unless you are under 8:1?

Post a data log of your issue, along with your MSQ and i'll take a look.

Rick.

Tried to send it t your hotmail but it bouched back...

Don't know how to put it up here...
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Originally Posted by CombatSapph
Which, as I said, is a symptom of the VR sensor gap being too big.
I've put the sensor a little bit closer and it seems to be working..

Peak rpm wich i've had is 6885 and gets over 6500 easy.

Thanks.
Although i stil don't quite understand why it was reving enough standing and not driving, but no complaints as it's working now.

Thanks
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when the car is moving, there is more strain on the whole electrical circuit, i.e. load and the electrics may suffer from poor earths, therefore the cps will suffer from interference a little more and may struggle to detect the pickups properly.
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Originally Posted by xr2wishy
when the car is moving, there is more strain on the whole electrical circuit, i.e. load and the electrics may suffer from poor earths, therefore the cps will suffer from interference a little more and may struggle to detect the pickups properly.
Ah i see,

Thanks for explaining.
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all the little things you have to think about

Good luck with it mate!
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Originally Posted by Red_bull
all the little things you have to think about

Good luck with it mate!
Thanks,

Indeed, but we keep on learning




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