Mk 5 Pedal mod gone wrong.... (really wrong)
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Originally Posted by _P_
White quadrant + MK4 auto adjust pedal would fit together but the quadrant doesn't have teeth all the way on its circle so the quadrant will move freely when you use the clutch...
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Originally Posted by mitchrst
so is this just for the ap paddle clutch ?
because i have a helix 4 paddle and standard pedal and i find it bites very
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because i have a helix 4 paddle and standard pedal and i find it bites very
soon and hard to get in gear
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I have the spring fitted also but you still get a floppy pedal, all you can do is adjust the adjuster bolt to take up the slack/play.
I think its because there is no longer a ratchet mechanism to self adjust, everything will always feel a little floppy becaue until you depress the pedal the cable is loose and the ratchet has nothing to engage its teeth into (which is why the spring doesnt do anything anymore).
I think its because there is no longer a ratchet mechanism to self adjust, everything will always feel a little floppy becaue until you depress the pedal the cable is loose and the ratchet has nothing to engage its teeth into (which is why the spring doesnt do anything anymore).
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i know someone who work with laser cutting, should i get a metal one made? and not use the plastic one?
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i know someone who work with laser cutting, should i get a metal one made? and not use the plastic one?
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by _P_
White quadrant + MK4 auto adjust pedal would fit together but the quadrant doesn't have teeth all the way on its circle so the quadrant will move freely when you use the clutch...
But anyway, the mod is shit.
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T'rificc just ordered AP clutch today, so have all this to look forward to
Does anyone know the FINIS codes for the correct pedal & quadrant ???
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Does anyone know the FINIS codes for the correct pedal & quadrant ???
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c.fogarty if i were you i would just try fitting the clutch and seeing if it releases ok, you don't have to fit the mod at the same time as the clutch, so you have nothing to lose.
If a standard set up will release the clutch sufficiently you would be better sticking with that IMO
If a standard set up will release the clutch sufficiently you would be better sticking with that IMO
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Mine was just bolted on with no mods and have been running smoothly (well, its a paddle, so I'm using the term quite loosely, but still..) for 8 months now.
Dis-engaging just like the std clutch did, no difference.
Dis-engaging just like the std clutch did, no difference.
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Hi all, im probrably going over old ground but can someone please explain how this mk5/6 pedal conversion replaces the old mk3 set up?
I have an AP fast road clutch on my RS and im having trouble with the plastic clutch pawl shearing its teeth and slipping after a few hundred miles, i have just busted the second one in as many months
The pedal on the AP website has an adjusting bolt fitted, does this replace the pawl on the old type adjusters? how does this work compared to the old type? do i need a mk5 or mk6 pedal or are they the same? do i keep the mk3 clutch cable?
Sorry for all the questions
im just abit miffed with these clutch ratchets keep breaking, luckily it happened near my house and not at Castle Combe
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I have an AP fast road clutch on my RS and im having trouble with the plastic clutch pawl shearing its teeth and slipping after a few hundred miles, i have just busted the second one in as many months
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The pedal on the AP website has an adjusting bolt fitted, does this replace the pawl on the old type adjusters? how does this work compared to the old type? do i need a mk5 or mk6 pedal or are they the same? do i keep the mk3 clutch cable?
Sorry for all the questions
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Originally Posted by GraphiteGray
Hi all, im probrably going over old ground but can someone please explain how this mk5/6 pedal conversion replaces the old mk3 set up?
I have an AP fast road clutch on my RS and im having trouble with the plastic clutch pawl shearing its teeth and slipping after a few hundred miles, i have just busted the second one in as many months
The pedal on the AP website has an adjusting bolt fitted, does this replace the pawl on the old type adjusters? how does this work compared to the old type? do i need a mk5 or mk6 pedal or are they the same? do i keep the mk3 clutch cable?
Sorry for all the questions
im just abit miffed with these clutch ratchets keep breaking, luckily it happened near my house and not at Castle Combe
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I have an AP fast road clutch on my RS and im having trouble with the plastic clutch pawl shearing its teeth and slipping after a few hundred miles, i have just busted the second one in as many months
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The pedal on the AP website has an adjusting bolt fitted, does this replace the pawl on the old type adjusters? how does this work compared to the old type? do i need a mk5 or mk6 pedal or are they the same? do i keep the mk3 clutch cable?
Sorry for all the questions
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Did you make it to castle combe? Think i may have seen you on the track parade
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Indeed the bolt does replace the pawl, but as has been proven here fitting this to the earlier cars, when the correct adjustment is obtained the bolt is pressing against the quadrant at a bad angle and presents a lot of stress so it ends up snapping anyway
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Did you make it to castle combe? Think i may have seen you on the track parade
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Yes i did make it to Combe, and i was on the track
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Its not so much the bolt that causes damage though, it just pushes the duadrant at an awkward angle and snaps the centre lug off the quadrant (see the pictures in this thread
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Ahhh i thought so, i said to rsdaz (who i was there with) that the grey/red lights are definately the way to go.
Half of them RSi's on track seemed like right old bangers, there was numerous people struggling to keep their cars idling when they were waiting to get on the track, and loads of them were bailing blue smoke out the exhausts
The one bloke had his mud flap hanging off aswell - couldn't do that myself i would feel embarased
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Ahhh i thought so, i said to rsdaz (who i was there with) that the grey/red lights are definately the way to go.
Half of them RSi's on track seemed like right old bangers, there was numerous people struggling to keep their cars idling when they were waiting to get on the track, and loads of them were bailing blue smoke out the exhausts
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The one bloke had his mud flap hanging off aswell - couldn't do that myself i would feel embarased
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Cheers fella
dont know about the other cars being old bangers though
some of em are well mint
was probrably the heat playing havoc, we were waiting for the RSi racer to get running and a few of the cars were getting hot
Just wish i couldve let mine rip but im still running the engine in atm
Can hopefully get this pedal sorted and finish off the running in miles
You got that cabby sorted yet?
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Can hopefully get this pedal sorted and finish off the running in miles
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You got that cabby sorted yet?
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They just didn't quite live up to my expectations but as im sure everyone has worked out by now - im a fussy cunt
The heat shouldn't make them smoke
You can give it a little bit of stick it'll be alright, just don't go go attempting any top speed runs
Nope, still sat there with the roof slashed etc, i put a new glass in cos a fucking cat was jumping through the hole in the window and sleeping in there
Almost definately going to break it or put a 3i lump back in and get rid.
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You can give it a little bit of stick it'll be alright, just don't go go attempting any top speed runs
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Nope, still sat there with the roof slashed etc, i put a new glass in cos a fucking cat was jumping through the hole in the window and sleeping in there
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Almost definately going to break it or put a 3i lump back in and get rid.
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Right ive just bought the mk5 pedal and clutch quadrant on your advise safechav, so it better work
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Am wondering whether to try the pre 95 quadrant with the pedal instead of the new one ive bought, the way i see it is after you chopped the new one about it looks the same shape as the older type. On comparing the two the early one looks stronger around the pivot hole compared to the later design![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
What was you expecting from the parade lap then, RSi's jumping through rings of fire?
Im going by the book with the running in, cos knowing my luck it'll go bang and if it does its off to the crusher
Whats stopping you from getting that cabby on the road? who cares if its got a slashed roof, you never heard of duct tape?
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Am wondering whether to try the pre 95 quadrant with the pedal instead of the new one ive bought, the way i see it is after you chopped the new one about it looks the same shape as the older type. On comparing the two the early one looks stronger around the pivot hole compared to the later design
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
They just didn't quite live up to my expectations but as im sure everyone has worked out by now - im a fussy cunt
The heat shouldn't make them smoke
You can give it a little bit of stick it'll be alright, just don't go go attempting any top speed runs
Nope, still sat there with the roof slashed etc, i put a new glass in cos a fucking cat was jumping through the hole in the window and sleeping in there
Almost definately going to break it or put a 3i lump back in and get rid.
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You can give it a little bit of stick it'll be alright, just don't go go attempting any top speed runs
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Nope, still sat there with the roof slashed etc, i put a new glass in cos a fucking cat was jumping through the hole in the window and sleeping in there
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Almost definately going to break it or put a 3i lump back in and get rid.
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Im going by the book with the running in, cos knowing my luck it'll go bang and if it does its off to the crusher
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Whats stopping you from getting that cabby on the road? who cares if its got a slashed roof, you never heard of duct tape?
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would it not be better to mod the arm on the box rather than the pedal?
just need to braket out the cable further really, seems simpler than faffing about under the dash, i hate it in there
just need to braket out the cable further really, seems simpler than faffing about under the dash, i hate it in there
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am looking into getting some metal quadrants made up.
not going to wait around for another plastic one to fail on me.
will keep everyone posted if i can get some done.
not going to wait around for another plastic one to fail on me.
will keep everyone posted if i can get some done.
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Right ive just bought the mk5 pedal and clutch quadrant on your advise safechav, so it better work
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Am wondering whether to try the pre 95 quadrant with the pedal instead of the new one ive bought, the way i see it is after you chopped the new one about it looks the same shape as the older type. On comparing the two the early one looks stronger around the pivot hole compared to the later design![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
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Am wondering whether to try the pre 95 quadrant with the pedal instead of the new one ive bought, the way i see it is after you chopped the new one about it looks the same shape as the older type. On comparing the two the early one looks stronger around the pivot hole compared to the later design
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Can you not read plain english man
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The quadrants fitted to our cars are a "quarter" of a circle, hence where the name was derived from. There is no difference between a pre 95 and post 95 quadrant, its the pedal that varies. A post 95 quadrant is the same thing and still has the teeth on it for the pawl. Why exactly are you looking to fit one anyway
Yes i have heard of duct tape, and that puts me in the league with those RSi's i saw that wouldn't idle/smoked/had parts hanging off them
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if i keep it, it'll get repaired properly, can't stand bodging things up
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Am going to send my modified quadrant off to have copies made next week.
I'm going to use the one that is in my car (Series 2) at the moment, will post up a picture possibly tomorrow to show you what it looks like.
If people want one they will cost around £15/20
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I'm going to use the one that is in my car (Series 2) at the moment, will post up a picture possibly tomorrow to show you what it looks like.
If people want one they will cost around £15/20
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Good man Dave y,keep us informed.Did AP ever get back to you by e mail???Regards,Micky
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