mattyonline

hi chaps has anybody got any info on changing the rachet to manual adjusting cable ? i have herd about this before and i think this will solve me problem,any ideas where to buy please

thanks matty.

rs shawn

Hi Matt.
Not heard of a manual clutch adjustment.

There's a Mk5 upgrade ?
http://www.apracing.com/roadcar/clutch/epmods.htm

What's you problem? Might be better posting that and getting some possible solutions or recommendations instead.

Series1Dry

I changed my clutch ratchet recently. Very awkward job. You have to take the clutch and brake pedals off. It's an easy job but the location makes it a tw4t to do and took me 2 hours I took the seat out to get in better. Dunno about the manual adjustment conversion though

SafeChav

Easy enough to do, but still just as hard to fit as a standard quadrant, if you're not uprating clutch i'd stick a standard quadrant and pawl in there.

syko2005

ive just had my ratchet done started to do it myself but got stressed out after 30 mins so payed a mechanic buddy 30 notes to do it its a right pig of a job . get a haynes manual of ebay that might help mine was only a fiver

SafeChav

Anybody attemtping this would do well to spend the extra time popping the dash out and removing the pedal box, definately not a fun job led acorss the car/out of the door working up above your head

mattyonline

thanks for your replies chaps the origanal problem was the rachet kept sliping so replaced with new one in the mean time found that nothing lined up from previus instalation ,sorted out parts put back together was allright for a couple of weeks then sliping proper crunching gears then rachet will work then slips long and short of it some one said about a manual adjusting pedal thats what i was investigating but no luck so went down the mk5 pedal rout so far 90% perfect but pedal now sits slightly higher and slightly rubs on steering colum has anybody got the same problem or is there a solution ?

SafeChav

Common for the pedal to sit high, trial and error with adjustments etc.

Not heard of it fouling the column before though.

Series1Dry

You can still get the mk 3 ones from ford and it sounds like you should have got one. Think mine was around Ł4 for ratchet and pawl
Pedal is perfect and is how it should be. Thing is, you won't want to change it now cos you know what a tw4t they are to do

Modder_J

Getting mine fitted soon, just hope Ford gave me the right part grrrr (might put some pics up just to be sure)

syko2005

hes the finis code to the ratchet safechav gave it to me in an earlier thread 6194025 by the way nice one

Modder_J

Not got the box it came in, but i'm sure that code is very similar to the one thats on the box

It's a shame that it goes now ... I wanted to get an uprated clutch later on, but would need the mk5 rachet. Guess the standard one will do for now, need the car everyday at the moment.

SafeChav

What colour is it? And what part number is on it?

andre_k

iTrader: (2)

how true, ive done 3 now and they aint fun. seat out is definately easier and less painful

Modder_J

It's white (the one that is on there at the moment is white aswell).

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**ck it !
Just got the box up here, and the part number doesn't match the one above
f'king Ford !
Mine is 6186200

SafeChav

And what car is it again (sorry if you already said)

Modder_J

A '88 (E) S2

SafeChav

Wrong one im afraid.

They've given you a white 50mm quadrant, you need a black 55mm one.

rs shawn

The white one is for the Mk5 upgrade. Click the AP link I posted earlier in the thread and hover over the white quadrant photo. On there is tells you which is which:

White is post-1995 and more of a semi-circle shape
Black is pre-1995 and less than 1/2 circle.

According to AP site, the black one is 40mm and the white one is 55m radius.

The latest Mk5 Escort Quadrant (white) has an increased radius R55mm over the Pre 1995 Quadrant (black) R40mm.

Either way, you want a BLACK one if you're not doing the mod.

SafeChav

rs shawn...............NO

trust me.....they've given him a Mk4 white quadrant which is 50mm, a MK5 white quadrant is 58mm, but thats not what he has.

And that AP site is all completely wrong, just trust me on this

rs shawn

Okey Dokey

SafeChav

now run along

mattyonline

hay chaps on the ap site you have to cut the white rachet down anyway so it wont be a so called 58mm rachet will this not take it down the right one ?

SafeChav

ignore the AP site that only applies to a Mk5 pedal.

And 58mm is the radius of the quadrant. And look at the picture, its a semi circle, where do you think the term "quadrant" was originally derived from

The colours only mean something on the vehicle it was originally made for.

You need a black 55mm quadrant for a Mk4

mattyonline

so if you put this 55mm black rachet on will this still use the original self adjusting method ?

SafeChav

yea its the proper one for your car.

Smaller quadrants are for lesser cars with smaller clutches because they dont need as much lift.

mattyonline

so if i got the suposed rachet to mach me s2 which should be the 55mm one so are you saying that they can sell you a smaller toothed rachet for a s2(black 1)?

SafeChav

No....your car should have a black 55mm quadrant.

They've sold you a white 50mm quadrant which is for a lesser car, say a 1.4 or similar which would have a smaller clutch.

6194025 should be what you need.

mattyonline

ah ha mr safechav me see your point but if you have the same problem that i had with the rachet keeps fauling chuck that in the bin then go for the ap mk5 unit saves anymore problems a apart from high pedal lol

SafeChav

i dont really have any problems with them tbh. Think the quadrant has gone on my run about but it doesnt really affect the clutch so ive just left it.

mattyonline

thats my moto if it ant broke dont fix it to be onest puting the mk5 setup on has saved a lot of

syko2005

ive got a spare ratchet it came through the post this morning a week late. as ive already had the job done ive no use for it so if anybody needs one

Micky

I fitted the Mark 5 pedal and white qudrant this morning,before reading that AP link,a right bastad of a job,as others have siad.The pedal does indeed sit too high and I thought the quadrant would need a lump taking out of it.So in I come to Passionford for help on this and as usual the answer is already posted!! So a thank you to rs shawn for posting the link and a b*llox to myself as I'll have to strip it all back down again to do the modification .I blame myself for not checking on here 1st!! Regards,Micky

rs shawn

Glad to help.

Tomassi

think my quadrant is on its way out, the clutch pedal slips and jerks and makes a horrible clicking noise all the time