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In the past Ive 2 sent people people proper maps that they could happily run there cars in and never even got as much as a thank you or any feedback a bit later down the line. (these were for cvh turbo)
In the past Ive 2 sent people people proper maps that they could happily run there cars in and never even got as much as a thank you or any feedback a bit later down the line. (these were for cvh turbo)
one thing I have learned when doing nice things for other people....much of the British population struggle with saying Thank You....not all, just a lot.
i gave one of my admin staff her Xmas bonus and as she was going off to Thailand for Xmas, I gave her a pre-paid credit card with £250 on it and £50 in Aussie dollars as she was going on to Aus to see family....not a thanks when she went and when she got back I asked if she had any probs using the card, "it worked fine" she said....not a thanks In sight. I a, sure she appreciated it in some way but struggled to articulate it maybe?
on the flip side, I have sent people on here items and they have been full of thanks and appreciation.
I think you must be pretty laid back as you accepted your admin girls lack of gratitude for your generous gift so well!!! What is wrong with her! In this day and age to get anything from your boss at Christmas is unusual!!
A while back I was given a box full of Sierra parts for nothing and I gave them away to Ford enthusiasts all over the UK and Europe/USA. All I asked for was for them to make a small donation to Marie Curie Cancer Care and pay for the postage. They were all very grateful and I was happy to have been able to help them out.
I think you must be pretty laid back as you accepted your admin girls lack of gratitude for your generous gift so well!!! What is wrong with her! In this day and age to get anything from your boss at Christmas is unusual!!
A while back I was given a box full of Sierra parts for nothing and I gave them away to Ford enthusiasts all over the UK and Europe/USA. All I asked for was for them to make a small donation to Marie Curie Cancer Care and pay for the postage. They were all very grateful and I was happy to have been able to help them out.
Exactly! I wonder how many got off their arse and actually gave the money to charity.
one thing I have learned when doing nice things for other people....much of the British population struggle with saying Thank You....not all, just a lot.
i gave one of my admin staff her Xmas bonus and as she was going off to Thailand for Xmas, I gave her a pre-paid credit card with £250 on it and £50 in Aussie dollars as she was going on to Aus to see family....not a thanks when she went and when she got back I asked if she had any probs using the card, "it worked fine" she said....not a thanks In sight. I a, sure she appreciated it in some way but struggled to articulate it maybe?
on the flip side, I have sent people on here items and they have been full of thanks and appreciation.
This kind of thing gets right on my nerves lately. I saved a guy off side of dual carriageway few months back and he just said "see ya" and went to Walk away! I said that's ok mate I don't mind risking my life in a live lane to save you but always appreciate a thanks after. He just looked blankly at me and went on his way. It's like people are so programmed now that if someone's doing a job or providing a service then they are entitled to it and why should they say thanks. Boils my piss it really does
I think you must be pretty laid back as you accepted your admin girls lack of gratitude for your generous gift so well!!! What is wrong with her! In this day and age to get anything from your boss at Christmas is unusual!!
A while back I was given a box full of Sierra parts for nothing and I gave them away to Ford enthusiasts all over the UK and Europe/USA. All I asked for was for them to make a small donation to Marie Curie Cancer Care and pay for the postage. They were all very grateful and I was happy to have been able to help them out.
i remember that as i got some of those parts from you and made a donation
i have a map on my laptop for my old yb engine but its on omex 600
This would help me with mine if you would be willing to send me it over or even a base map. I have Omex 600 to go on my Zetec turbo and was looking for a starter map to get me going. I am using the cossie throttle body/sensors so would assume it will be close to what i need.
Engine not in the car yet but will be in the near future.
It's about it's as vague a question as walking into a phone shop....and asking if they have a phone.
or a TV shop...and asking for a TV.
There are almost endless amount of variables after that. The fact it's a YB is meaningless and unless someone has a totally identical setup in every respect..any different is largely pointless. Because it's different !
It's about it's as vague a question as walking into a phone shop....and asking if they have a phone.
or a TV shop...and asking for a TV.
There are almost endless amount of variables after that. The fact it's a YB is meaningless and unless someone has a totally identical setup in every respect..any different is largely pointless. Because it's different !
Exactly and even if it was the same set up the algorithms with so different it wouldnt help anyway
the guy surely just wants the ignition map which any stock map would do to get him running
I've no idea what his perception of a "map" is ?
I've seen idiots on other forums who proclaim they are tuners etc think a map is just the main fuel/spark tables....which proves them to be utter idiots, not tuners.
And if he wanted a timing table to start/run an engine...just fill it all in with 10, 15, 20. That will start and allow almost any engine to run. Except there is a hell of a lot more to a map than that, with many more variables. In many respects something like the timing table would be one of the easiest to fill in to get running.
And an engine is an engine, any similar spec 2.0 4cyl inline etc will have similar values for a similar spec to allow it to start and run initially. So shouldnt be difficult to follow manufacturers instructions for setup for whatever ecu he is using, throw some numbers into it and get it running.
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Originally Posted by Jay,
But it wont lol
but it will LOL - otherwise guide us with your superior knowledge
anyone who has an understanding about how engines and ecu's work would not ask the question he did so why not try and help him?
correst -pretty much any 2ltr engine map would do but its easy for someone unfamiliar to imagine that a specific timing map would be required for a turbo engine..
FFS the guy came on here for basic advice and he's got no help, just lots of stuff about how folk are cunts for not saying saying 'thank you' when you do them a favour???
but it will LOL - otherwise guide us with your superior knowledge
anyone who has an understanding about how engines and ecu's work would not ask the question he did so why not try and help him?
correst -pretty much any 2ltr engine map would do but its easy for someone unfamiliar to imagine that a specific timing map would be required for a turbo engine..
FFS the guy came on here for basic advice and he's got no help, just lots of stuff about how folk are cunts for not saying saying 'thank you' when you do them a favour???
It's already been explained why it wont and the problems behind the question.
but it will LOL - otherwise guide us with your superior knowledge
anyone who has an understanding about how engines and ecu's work would not ask the question he did so why not try and help him?
correst -pretty much any 2ltr engine map would do but its easy for someone unfamiliar to imagine that a specific timing map would be required for a turbo engine..
FFS the guy came on here for basic advice and he's got no help, just lots of stuff about how folk are cunts for not saying saying 'thank you' when you do them a favour???
Unfortunately some people like to belittle others who have less knowledge than them instead of trying to help out.The "Thank you" part did hijack the original question for a while but I replied to clear up the point that there are still a lot of people who are grateful when you help them out.
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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
It's already been explained why it wont and the problems behind the question.
but it will - and it hasn't been explained at all, you are just wrong. the required ign timing for any given engine will be the same irrespective of ecu and can be migrated from any other ecu's data. also, as you commented earlier, prob not critical to get the engine running anyway so what are you talking about ?
but it will - and it hasn't been explained at all, you are just wrong. the required ign timing for any given engine will be the same irrespective of ecu and can be migrated from any other ecu's data. also, as you commented earlier, prob not critical to get the engine running anyway so what are you talking about ?
What planet are you living on ? And of course timing will not be the same. There may be similarities but that isnt the same thing...and he never asked exclusively for only an ignition timing map.
If you dont have a clue what a map is, is there really any point in you responding to such a thread ?
Unfortunately some people like to belittle others who have less knowledge than them instead of trying to help out.The "Thank you" part did hijack the original question for a while but I replied to clear up the point that there are still a lot of people who are grateful when you help them out.
you love a waffle you hey lol?
Originally Posted by stevieturbo
What planet are you living on ? And of course timing will not be the same. There may be similarities but that isnt the same thing...and he never asked exclusively for only an ignition timing map.
If you dont have a clue what a map is, is there really any point in you responding to such a thread ?
exactly lol and that was my point there will very little to no comparison to Weber map or a link or a pectel t6 as the software will be written with different algorithms so you did find all the info to fill in the blanks the car wouldn't start lol .
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I'm baffled by this thread.
try searching 'ignition map' and you will get hundreds or thousands of hits. select the 'images' tab on the browser and you will then see lots of ignition maps. pick one from a similar type of engine and punch the cell contents into the similar X-Y co-ordinates in the ign timing area in your own ecu's software.
unless the OP really believes that the entire map from one ecu type will load directly into a different ecu then all he needs to know.
if he is thinking that diff ecu maps are compatible then simply explain that it won't work and why. instead, little has been done to help the guy.
Obviously I have no idea what you need here, but if its just an idea of numbers Vs manifold pressure then these table are in Bar and RPM.
No point me giving you an engine spec as its irrelevant to you, but these maps are from my latest Weber L8 Firmware which offers bigger tables in some areas than most peoples weber stuff so it will be easier to translate over to an aftermarket ECU.
The spark table numbers here will start, rev and offer decent throttle response to any Spec YB.
Anything more than that requires input from your tuner or your chosen God.
Fuel in DEC
Spark in DEG
Last edited by Stu @ M Developments; Jan 30, 2019 at 02:08 PM.
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Stu, you're unlikely to hear from the OP after stevieturbo ridiculed him by his stupid post but since you said the same as me (albeit more clearly) about the ignition timing you may hear from stevieturbo...
Are we talking about like for like ECU’s?
if so I used someone else’s base map for autronic on a Vauxhall engine and it was fine for getting the car started and ticking over.
YB ECU Maps
